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Should an OF umpire call an infield fly?
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:55 pm
Seems counterintuitive to me.
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Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:55 pm to CountryVolFan
No
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Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:56 pm to CountryVolFan
No. He should call a suicide hotline. And they should hang up on him.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:56 pm to CountryVolFan
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Should an OF umpire exist?
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:57 pm to Broseph Barksdale
Go Nats
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:57 pm to CountryVolFan
should he?
prob not
can an inf fly be called in shallow OF?
yes
so he surely has the freedom to do so.
prob not
can an inf fly be called in shallow OF?
yes
so he surely has the freedom to do so.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:00 pm to CountryVolFan
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:20 pm to Lester Earl
The place where the catch is made on the field is completely irrelevant to this call, just so you know. Only thing in the rule is an infielder (aka positions 1-6) must make the catch.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:24 pm to Tigerfan7218
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Only thing in the rule is an infielder (aka positions 1-6) must make the catch.
naw.
you dont know the rule. move on
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The place where the catch is made on the field is completely irrelevant to this call, just so you know.
depends on how you look at it. Regardless, the right to make the call is not limited to just the infield umpires.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:26 pm to Lester Earl
I meant only thing as far as who or where the catch is made. Obviously the "ordinary effort" and "reasonable time" parts are there too. But yes, as far as who or where the catch is made, the only thing is that 1-6 must make that catch. If you want me to link you to the verbatim rule I can.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:27 pm to Tigerfan7218
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But yes, as far as who or where the catch is made, the only thing is that 1-6 must make that catch. If you want me to link you to the verbatim rule I can.
please link it. Cause you are wrong
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:30 pm to CountryVolFan
If it results in an Atlanta meltdown, yes
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:30 pm to Lester Earl
LINK
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An INFIELD FLY is a fair fly ball (not including a line drive nor an attempted bunt) which can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, when first and second, or first, second and third bases are occupied, before two are out. The pitcher, catcher and any outfielder who stations himself in the infield on the play shall be considered infielders for the purpose of this rule.
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:31 pm to Tigerfan7218
so you interpret that positions 1-6 have to make the play?
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:31 pm to Tigerfan7218
Yeah I heard that on MLB Network as well
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:32 pm to Lester Earl
Fine, call me on some BS, yes technically an OF stationed in the infield can catch an IFF ball. The point I was trying to make was that the positioning of the ball is irrelevant at least in the wording of the rule. Do you not agree to that?
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:33 pm to Lester Earl
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Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder?not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire?s judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire?s judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately.
had Matt Holliday field that ball, it would have still been infield fly. The call is made before the player catches the ball. It's not erased should an OF catch it (or drop it). The batter is still out. Ive seen the exact play before.
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:35 pm to Robot Santa
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No. He should call a suicide hotline. And they should hang up on him.
Sig-quoted
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:35 pm to Lester Earl
Fair enough, my point was that positioning on the field technically makes no impact on the play, obviously on field interpretation of the rule has to include positioning to some extent. But the people arguing that because of where the catch was going to be made that it shouldn't have been called just don't get it.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 8:35 pm to Tigerfan7218
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The point I was trying to make was that the positioning of the ball is irrelevant at least in the wording of the rule
It depends on what you mean by irrelevant
I think most umps will generally call infield fly just on where the ball is hit....usually a high pop in the vicinity of an infielder.
Tonight was a much more difficult call.
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