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re: Sean Bedford, GT Center on 2009 Team, Responds to NCAA
Posted on 7/16/11 at 6:37 pm to xiv
Posted on 7/16/11 at 6:37 pm to xiv
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Yep, still amazed that people--including nerds--don't get it. GT was ineligible to win the ACC title when the Yellow Jackets took their first defensive snap. The fact that that ineligibility was not discovered until recently does not change history.
GT played an ineligible player (which gave them a competitive advantage on the field), so they didn't win. A trophy was given to them by mistake. The mistake was corrected. Georgia Tech never was the 2009 ACC Champion. If they were, they would be the 2009 ACC Champion today.
It is factually incorrect to say that Georgia Tech won the game on the field; they forfeited their eligibility to win, and they did so on the field.
Lulz at nerds.
Anyway, I didn't realize that a player receiving free t shirts from an aquarium rendered him athletically more compotent and gifted. So your point about us winning the ACC championship(which we did win vs Clemson in 2009) is null and void and rather desperate and pathetic. The presentation of the trophy to GT was not a mistake it was a reward for us winning the ACC that night. Also your statement about us forfeting on the field is also inaccurate. On the actual field of play the Georgia Institute of Technology defeated Clemson University to win the ACC, the championship was taken away from us behind closed doors by some pencil pushers. We will appeal and have a shot to get in given back to us. So to sum it up briefly, we won the game and championship on the field of play, had it taken away from us off the field of play and we can all agree that we did not gain a competitive advantage by one of our players recieving a petty amount of free t shirts, that point was just dumb as frick, pardon my language.
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Geaux Tigers.
Good for you, same here, but you are one of the people who give us LSU fans a bad rep for being stupid and ignorant.
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Posted on 7/16/11 at 7:10 pm to 225bred
quote:It doesn't. But, he should not have been allowed to play. Clemson should have played against a Burnett-less defense according to the rules. GT had an unfair competitive advantage when they took the liberty of playing someone who had no business on the field. Amazing that you still don't get this very simle concept.
Anyway, I didn't realize that a player receiving free t shirts from an aquarium rendered him athletically more compotent and gifted.
Sorry, but it's GT's problem, not the rest of the world's. GT broke the rules on the field, no matter how you want to spin it because u mad. The rules were written way before GT broke them, so no, pencil-pushers didn't do this to GT. GT did this to GT.
GT is becoming the Ole Miss of the ACC.
at runts. Posted on 7/16/11 at 7:19 pm to xiv
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It doesn't. But, he should not have been allowed to play. Clemson should have played against a Burnett-less defense according to the rules. GT had an unfair competitive advantage when they took the liberty of playing someone who had no business on the field. Amazing that you still don't get this very simle concept.
Sorry, but it's GT's problem, not the rest of the world's. GT broke the rules on the field, no matter how you want to spin it because u mad. The rules were written way before GT broke them, so no, pencil-pushers didn't do this to GT. GT did this to GT.
GT is becoming the Ole Miss of the ACC. at runts.
Haha whatever man
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at "runts" being 2 years removed from winning the whole damn conference, which trophy or not, we did. Posted on 7/16/11 at 7:21 pm to 225bred
GT wasn't good enough to win it without playing ineligible players. Sorry. Umad.
19 years--in the ACC. runts.
19 years--in the ACC.
runts. 
Posted on 7/16/11 at 11:25 pm to xiv
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GT played an ineligible player
That's actually incorrect. BayBay received the items from his cousin. It's not against rules to receive items from family. There is no proof otherwise. Tech received the info the Tuesday before the UGA game (or something ridiculously close to gameday). They actually conferred with the ACC, and they were told there wasn't enough evidence to rule the player ineligible. They fricked up by not following the correct procedure with the NCAA. Even then, that's not the main issue. The NCAA decided that Drad and PJ "coached" the player on what to say in the interview, which is bullshite. They basically said by telling the player he was going to be interviewed by the NCAA they affected the integrity of the process. Are you telling me no one told Cam he was about to be interviewed by the NCAA? Sure they did. (Yes, I know Auburn filed the complaint correctly with the NCAA, that's not the point I'm making there.) It never should have escalated to where it did, but there was a tiny window to make a decision.
You are basically spouting a rainbow of shite out of your arse, and you sound no more knowledgeable about the subject than Buck fricking Belue. If you would just end your post with some corny arse joke and a fake, pompous hardy har har laugh, you would be spot on.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 11:35 pm to glb
The one thing I don't get is that we got in trouble for D Rad telling CPJ about the problem. Why the frick should the coach not know why his star WR might not should be playing.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 11:48 pm to ATLwreck
This is stupid horseshite and the no nothing fans of other teams that pile on about it will be whining when it happens to their team at some point in the future so frick them too.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:26 am to glb
Good luck with GT's appeal. There was more than one player fwiw. Not all the exchanges were familial.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:30 am to xiv
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I can't believe so many people can't grasp something so simple.
People grasp it, bro. They just don't agree with your opinion. I can't believe you didn't grasp that.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:44 am to ToesOnTheNose213
quote:It's not my opinion, bro. It's the ncaa's opinion. That means that if GT loses their appeal, then it's also GT's opinion and the ACC's opinion. GT broke the rules. That's GT's problem and not anybody else's. If you can't follow the rules, then you aren't good enough to be ACC champ.
People grasp it, bro. They just don't agree with your opinion. I can't believe you didn't grasp that.
By being an NCAA member, GT agrees that what the NCAA says goes. I can't believe so many bros can't grasp that.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 12:46 am
Posted on 7/17/11 at 12:50 am to xiv
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xiv
How would you feel if LSU had ineligible players on their team during their championship seasons?
Cause you know just as well as I do that at least one person on probably every major program has done something that vacate any wins, awards, or titles. In fact, by your interpretation of this I would show who would have won the BCS title games if the NCAA was able to catch every infraction.
BCS National Champions:
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:00 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:The same way I felt when my high school forfeited five victories for playing an ineligible player. shite happens; take the blow and move on like a man; don't be a narcissistic Wuss and pretend that the world has an anti-you bias.
How would you feel if LSU had ineligible players on their team during their championship seasons?
I went to about 100 LSU basketball games while LSU was on probation. It sucks. But being a whiny arse pansy about it sucks way worse.
Georgia Tech fricked up. They didn't win the ACC title. Too fricking bad. It's not the rest of the world's fault. Move on.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 1:02 am
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:26 am to xiv
You still evaded the premise of my post. Do you think that no team should with any violations should be credited for wins? Honestly, it is quite obvious that practically every major school, if not every major school, has made some sort of NCAA infraction even in the smallest manner. Therefore, should there be no national champions if my above statement holds true?
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:43 am to Vicks Kennel Club
Virtually everybody exceeds the speed limit from time to time while driving. If you get ticketed, you pay the fine. Period.
GT broke the rules. They knowingly played an ineligible player.
If you know of other teams who have done this, you should alert the NCAA.
GT broke the rules. They knowingly played an ineligible player.
If you know of other teams who have done this, you should alert the NCAA.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 1:52 am
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:47 am to xiv
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GT broke the rules. They knowingly played an ineligible player
Like every team does.
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If you know of other teams who have done this, you should alert the NCAA
Do you think every top 25 team doesn't do this?
This is exactly why the system is completely broken.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:53 am to shel311
Show me a list of teams that do this, what infractions they have committed, and show me what proof you have.
anyway, irrelevant. "Everybody else does it" does not warrant exoneration. Nothin anyone else does has any bearing on whether or not GT broke the rules.
Many of these rules are dumb IMHO, but our opinions on these things do not matter. GT broke the rules. They fricked up. No ACC title. TS.
anyway, irrelevant. "Everybody else does it" does not warrant exoneration. Nothin anyone else does has any bearing on whether or not GT broke the rules.
Many of these rules are dumb IMHO, but our opinions on these things do not matter. GT broke the rules. They fricked up. No ACC title. TS.
This post was edited on 7/17/11 at 1:57 am
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:56 am to xiv
I just hope if it is ever proven that Cam took $180k from Auburn that they have to pay $60million.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:58 am to The Easter Bunny
Bunny, turns out you were right in the summer of 2009. I said GT would win the ACC title, and you said they would be too thin on defense. Looks like you were right and I was wrong.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 1:58 am to xiv
quote:I can link you to you avoiding the question I just asked you if you want lol.
Show me a list of teams that do this, what infractions they have committed, and show me what proof you have
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anyway, irrelevant. "Everybody else does it" does not warrant exoneration. Nothin anyone else does has any bearing on whether or not GT broke the rules
No, but it shows that the system is completely broken. That it does.
You just keep saying "GT broke the rules", "no ACC Title" in response to my post that had NOTHING to do with that.
Posted on 7/17/11 at 2:01 am to shel311
quote:Correct. It's the only thing relevant to the GT situation unless they sink a half court shot at the buzzer in their appeal.
You just keep saying "GT broke the rules", "no ACC Title"
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