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re: Rate these sports professions based on athleticism; your opinion.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:58 pm to kilo
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:58 pm to kilo
while I'm definitely not putting it anywhere near #1... professional race car drivers (indy car, NASCAR, F1, etc.)... esp. on hot days... can lose up to 10 pounds during a race... so it is taxing on the body even though it is a bunch of sitting and steering
not putting it above football, basketball, hockey, soccer... but definitely putting it above golf
not putting it above football, basketball, hockey, soccer... but definitely putting it above golf
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Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:59 pm to Open Your Eyes
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I do believe the most athletic people in the categories mentioned are nba wings and NFL DBs, and there's a pretty big gap after them.
Laughable. Neither are top 5.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 9:59 pm to Open Your Eyes
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This post proves otherwise:
"Just watch someone ice skate for the first time to find your answer. Everyone of these sports is predicated on the individuals base ability to walk/run except for hockey. "
You are dumb.
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Actually you're missing the point. Your entire argument for hockey requiring the most athleticism is because ice skating is hard and not something that everyone learns naturally.
No, its not an "entire argument" you dolt. Its a pretty substantial one that sets it above the other major team sports. Why not start there when comparing mensa man?
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Actually you're missing the point. Your entire argument for hockey requiring the most athleticism is because ice skating is hard and not something that everyone learns naturally.
All of those things you quoted require learning a certain physical motor skill that isn't naturally acquired before learning the actual skills of the sport, just like hockey.
You are going out of your way to disprove hockey with some uncommon sports. Interesting that you dont do the same with those putting basketball,football,baseball first. Why was your trigger "Hockey" to go off to the obscure sports to find arguments?
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Your pointless diatribe about southerners not knowing hockey further proves you're missing the point.
No, its not. You were never exposed to it. You said so yourself. You completely blew off my point because you learned to "Glide" around the rink one day at a skating rink.
Hockey isnt popular in the south, or are you going to argue that obvious point as well? This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:01 pm to Taurus
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Neither are top 5.
What's your top 5?
Barring Decathletes (unarguably the best athletes).
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:03 pm to kilo
The thing is, learning to skate isn't hard if someone puts any time into it. Most of the best athletes don't so you are competing only against a certain sample of the population. The fact hockey requires such a specialized skill actually decreases the level of innate athleticism required to play it at an elite level.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:04 pm to RandySavage
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The thing is, learning to skate isn't hard if someone puts any time into it. Most of the best athletes don't so you are competing only against a certain sample of the population. The fact hockey requires such a specialized skill actually decreases the level of innate athleticism required to play it at an elite level.
Well, then its soccer in a landslide...right? Has to be according to this logic.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:07 pm to Jack Daniel
In some sports it depends on the position.
baseball 2B, SS, CF
basketball
tennis
FB skilled positions
soccer
FB other
baseball other non-pitchers
extreme sports
lacrosse
baseball pitchers
bowling
darts
golf
baseball 2B, SS, CF
basketball
tennis
FB skilled positions
soccer
FB other
baseball other non-pitchers
extreme sports
lacrosse
baseball pitchers
bowling
darts
golf
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:09 pm to kilo
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Well, then its soccer in a landslide...right? Has to be according to this logic.
How do you arrive at that conclusion?
I would also argue the skills necessary for hockey probably translate the least to other sports thus hockey players are much more limited in their skill sets in relation to other elite athletes.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 10:17 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:11 pm to RandySavage
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How do you arrive at that conclusion?
I would also argue the skills necessary for hockey probably translate the least to other sports thus hockey players are much more limited in their skill sets in relation to other elite athletes.
Read your own post meat. I'm not playing follow the moving goal posts with you. I get that is your act around this place but I have no interest in playing along.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:12 pm to kilo
Well at least you were smart enough to get out before you got in too deep. Rare quality on a message board, respect. 
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:13 pm to Plankton
You can't bar any.
Pole Vaulters (sprinter, jumper, and gymnast in one)
Decathletes
Gymnast
Hockey Player
Receiver
Pole Vaulters (sprinter, jumper, and gymnast in one)
Decathletes
Gymnast
Hockey Player
Receiver
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:14 pm to RandySavage
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Well at least you were smart enough to get out before you got in too deep. Respect.
No. I have seen you operate on other boards and the soccer board. You are one huge walking logical fallacy and its like a game of "beat the straw man" getting into any kind of debate with you.
Congrats.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:17 pm to kilo
I don't know what you're so upset about, I admittedly didn't read most of the thread.
I'm just pointing out that being able to skate is not a plus for hockey players when trying to arguing for their athleticism in relation to other sports.
I'm just pointing out that being able to skate is not a plus for hockey players when trying to arguing for their athleticism in relation to other sports.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:19 pm to Taurus
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Pole Vaulters (sprinter, jumper, and gymnast in one)
All are completely different so there's no way they can even remotely fit into 1 category.
Given that, I agree that decathletes, sprinters, and jumpers are handily among the top of the list.
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Hockey Player
Receiver
C'mon man. You're trolling right? Of all the "athletic" characteristics you mentioned earlier, what is a hockey player better than a football player at besides endurance?
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:25 pm to kilo
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You are dumb.
Such a compelling argument. Having a hard time coming to grid with reality?
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No, its not an "entire argument" you dolt.
You can keep claiming this, but it doesn't change the fact that your first, and still to this point, only argument for hockey in this thread has been 'watch someone skate for the first time to get your answer.'
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Its a pretty substantial one that sets it above the other major team sports. Why not start there when comparing mensa man?
because it puts far too much weight into something that, while difficult at first, is a routine action for those that participate in the sport.
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You are going out of your way to disprove hockey with some uncommon sports. Interesting that you dont do the same with those putting basketball,football,baseball first.
And you continue to miss the point. My arguments are not about hockey. They are about the idea you keep positing that hockey is the best because it requires you to be very good at an unnatural motor skill.
I'm curious to know now though. Where do you rank hockey amongst these "uncommon sports" in terms of athleticism? Keeping in mind of course that, like hockey, swimming, gymnastics, skateboarding, and pole vaulting are not natural skills.
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Why was your trigger "Hockey" to go off to the obscure sports to find arguments?
Hmmm. You have called me dumb, used emoticons as responses, gone off on irrelevant rants about southerners not knowing hockey, etc. But I'm the one that's triggered? Lolok
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No, its not. You were never exposed to it. You said so yourself.
Yes it is. I've never pole vaulted or done gymnastics. Does that mean I don't have an understanding that those sports require unnatural motor skills that need to be learned before i could even start trying to actually do the sports? Where's my southern bias in talking about those?
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You completely blew off my point because you learned to "Glide" around the rink one day at a skating rink.
You were convinced I had never skated before, so I couldn't possibly understand. Except I had, and I did understand.
Here's your problem. I'm not the most athletic person in the world by any means. In the span of 1 hour, I was able to go from not being able to remain upright on ice skates, to go round and round in circles without even having to think. You know why? Because the motor skills required to do it became routine.
So yes, if I spent years of my life ice skating, I am confident I would eventually get to the skating level required to be able to play hockey, and skating at that level would become so routine that I didn't even have to think about it anymore.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:27 pm to Plankton
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Pole Vaulters (sprinter, jumper, and gymnast in one)
All are completely different so there's no way they can even remotely fit into 1 category.
I'm saying pole vaulters are all three. Maybe I don't get what you're saying. I don't know.
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C'mon man. You're trolling right? Of all the "athletic" characteristics you mentioned earlier, what is a hockey player better than a football player at besides endurance?
Balance, agility, quickness, hand/eye coordination are all in question between the two. I can see a receiver being a little better, but not other skilled positions.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:29 pm to kilo
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Well, then its soccer in a landslide...right? Has to be according to this logic.
Actually soccer would probably be one of the least athletic sports according to his logic. But you keep on keeping on with missing the points of other's arguments.
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:32 pm to Plankton
quote:im sure that more than a handful of NBA or NFL players could winn a decathlon. I.e., Russell Westbrook
Barring Decathletes (unarguably the best athletes).
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:32 pm to Open Your Eyes
Soccer is a good mix of skill, athleticism, and endurance which ranks them high on the list, at least as far as team sports go, for me. Basketball I think is definitely #1.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 6/21/15 at 10:33 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Actually soccer would probably be one of the least athletic sports according to his logic. But you keep on keeping on with missing the points of other's arguments.
His argument that the sample size of the population limits the need for athleticism in general to be "elite" in hockey
ergo
The level of athleticism required to rise to elite levels in soccer given the sheer amount of people playing would be greatest.
That was his first post to me. Please feel free to try and spin what he said some more.
This post was edited on 6/21/15 at 10:33 pm
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