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Purdue-Cincy & Okla State-Oregon and other games
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:08 pm
Purdue vs Cincy- Louisville 6:10 Central thur
Okla State vs Oregon - Omaha 5:50 Central Fri
Who has a good feeling about the winners here?
Okla State vs Oregon - Omaha 5:50 Central Fri
Who has a good feeling about the winners here?
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 12:09 pm
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Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:13 pm to LaBR4
I have Cincinnati and Oregon here, but Purdue has a really good chance of winning.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:20 pm to LaBR4
Purdue has some really tall decently athletic bigs. They will be a tough out.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
yeah both games look to be a complete toss up.
Another game. SF Austin-Utah in Portland. SF Austin with a win last year, I'm seeing a Utah win here..
Another game. SF Austin-Utah in Portland. SF Austin with a win last year, I'm seeing a Utah win here..
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:23 pm to KosmoCramer
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Purdue has some really tall decently athletic bigs. They will be a tough out.
damn these 8-9 games.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:32 pm to LaBR4
I have Purdue beating Cincinnati. The Bearcats really slow the game down, but they are not a very efficient offense. Purdue, while averaging more possessions, does have the ability to play a half-court game, too. Octavius Ellis is a good player, but he will get to see Isaac Haas and AJ Hammons, which does not bode well for the Bearcats' chances, in my opinion.
I've also got Oklahoma State over Oregon. One reason I picked OSU is because I don't trust teams in the tournament that can't play a lick of defense, and Oregon has one of the worst defenses (per Pomeroy) of any At-Large team. Elgin Cook v. Le'Bryan Nash is going to be a fun match-up and Joe Young is about as experienced and lethal of a scorer as one could possibly ask for, but I think Nash and Phil Forte out-duel Cook and Young in the end.
ETA: let me say that I do not have a ton of confidence in the OSU/Oregon game.
I've also got Oklahoma State over Oregon. One reason I picked OSU is because I don't trust teams in the tournament that can't play a lick of defense, and Oregon has one of the worst defenses (per Pomeroy) of any At-Large team. Elgin Cook v. Le'Bryan Nash is going to be a fun match-up and Joe Young is about as experienced and lethal of a scorer as one could possibly ask for, but I think Nash and Phil Forte out-duel Cook and Young in the end.
ETA: let me say that I do not have a ton of confidence in the OSU/Oregon game.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:37 pm to hoopsgalore
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One reason I picked OSU is because I don't trust teams in the tournament that can't play a lick of defense, and Oregon has one of the worst defenses (per Pomeroy) of any At-Large team
Great info on all those teams.
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hoopsgalore
Have a gut feeling on Wyoming-No. Iowa out in Seattle?
San Diego State going across country the 8-9 match up with St. John's ? SDSU 3.5 Fav. I was leaning St. John's here.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:45 pm to LaBR4
Johnnies without their starting center. Suspended. I'm homer picking SJU but highly doubt they win.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:47 pm to quail man
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Johnnies without their starting center. Suspended. I'm homer picking SJU but highly doubt they win.
damn, we need an Injury thread.
anybody catch Huggins talk yesterday about West Virginia on ESPN? He claimed both of the starters are basically 100%, but he was really defensive, sounded like the honest truth is WVU has a few guys still hurt.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:56 pm to LaBR4
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San Diego State going across country the 8-9 match up with St. John's ? SDSU 3.5 Fav. I was leaning St. John's here.
This is a difficult pick, too.
There is no beating around the bush: SDSU sucks on offense. They slow the game down, but average less than a point per possession (210th nationally). Upside about playing low-possession games is they'll keep the game close.
More times than not, a team that minimizes possessions on offense often has a good scoring defense because they also limit their opponents possessions. While this is true in SDSU's case, they are no doubt an elite defense that limits their opponents points and holds them to a very low field goal percentage.
St. John's is an interesting team. Steve Lavin has a very thin team as three players average 34+ minutes and he relies heavily on his top six players. However, what should be noted is Lavin just suspended his starting center, Chris Obepka, and he won't be available. This makes an already thin team even thinner.
I like SDSU in a grinder.
ETA: I also read that Steve Lavin thinks SDSU prefers an up-tempo style. This is after he admitted he wasn't a good conference tournament coach.
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Have a gut feeling on Wyoming-No. Iowa out in Seattle?
This is going to be a SLOW game. Both of these teams rank near the bottom of the country in possessions/game, but the difference is offensive efficiency. Wyoming is not very efficient on offense while UNI is extremely efficient (1.095 points/possession) and boasts one of the more difficult match-ups in the Tournament in Seth Tuttle.
I think UNI takes that one.
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 12:58 pm to hoopsgalore
cincy and oregon
purdue was 0-7 against top 25 teams
purdue was 0-7 against top 25 teams
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:01 pm to LaBR4
Some things to note:
Oregon does not have a great defense, but Oklahoma State has not been doing too well in recent games(lost 6 of their last 7 games). Oregon also has the PAC 12 player of the year in Joe Young. How you interpret that for you to decide.
Oregon does not have a great defense, but Oklahoma State has not been doing too well in recent games(lost 6 of their last 7 games). Oregon also has the PAC 12 player of the year in Joe Young. How you interpret that for you to decide.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:02 pm to hoopsgalore
Butler-Texas?
Davidson-Iowa?
VCU-OSU?
I picked Butler over Texas, split on Davidson-Iowa(picked Iowa?), and I have VCU over OSU but not confident at all.
Davidson-Iowa?
VCU-OSU?
I picked Butler over Texas, split on Davidson-Iowa(picked Iowa?), and I have VCU over OSU but not confident at all.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:03 pm to Jack Bauer7
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purdue was 0-7 against top 25 teams
Well, it's a good thing Cincinnati didn't finish in the Top 25 then, right?
The Tournament is a complete crapshoot, so you very well may be right.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:29 pm to tWildcat
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Butler-Texas?
No confidence at all in this pick. Kellen Dunham is going to a matchup problem for anyone on Texas, but Texas' size could overwhelm Butler.
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Davidson-Iowa?
If Davidson gets past Iowa, I wouldn't be overly shocked to see them take out Gonzaga. Iowa is so confusing to me, though. They have a lot of size and experience, but they have been criticized over the last two seasons for being 'mentally weak.' To their credit, they finished this season stronger than last season, but I think Davidson's guards and ability to shoot will be the difference in this game.
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VCU-OSU?
I don't have a ton of confidence in this game, either, as I think each team has some deficiencies. I give credit to VCU for playing better down the stretch, and running through the A-10 Tournament, but I can't help but think they'll desperately miss Brionte Weber against D'Angelo Russell and Shannon Scott, both of which have the ability to break the Havoc pressure defense.
Honestly, your guess is as good as mine with these three games.
Posted on 3/17/15 at 1:51 pm to LaBR4
Excuse the wall of text but a really good write up on this match. Definitely worth a read.
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8 CINCINNATI VS 9 PURDUE (in LOUISVILLE)
This one should be a slugfest. It can be exceptionally hard to score against the Bearcats. They’re going to contest the three ridiculously well with their length and athleticism, and scoring around the rim can be like trying to score inside of a carwash, and they do it all without fouling. Unfortunately the offensive can be extremely clunky. They’re fairly reliant on getting the ball to the rim, offensive rebounds, and getting to the FT line. Farad Cobb has become a shot maker outside, but a lot of the perimeter offense is generated through paint touches, which become exceptionally hard against Purdue’s massive interior defense. Purdue’s defense doesn’t really gamble for turnovers (which is good news for turnover prone Cincinnati), instead preferring to stay at home on shooters with the height behind them protecting the rim, and it helps that they have outstanding length outside with shutdown defenders in Octeus and Davis. The key here is can they guard Cincy without fouling, especially Hammons. When Hammons gets in foul trouble, the whole scheme tends to go to hell, but he’s done a great job limiting the fouls as the season has progressed. If Cincy isn’t getting to the FT line, they’re likely not going to win this game. In their last eight losses, they’ve been to the stripe 15 times or less. Offensively Purdue is fairly similar to Cincinnati in that they have to get the ball inside and get to the free throw line to be successful. Again, those are two areas that Cincy is exceptional at in terms of limiting other teams with their defense. Purdue’s resume probably should have landed them in the play-in game, as they basically just won the games they were supposed to win in conference play (with the exception of the win at IU), and their non conference slate was buoyed by improving wins over BYU and NC State. But in this game they matchup well defensively, and they defend without fouling enough to keep Cincy off the FT line and win the game. PREDICTIONS
ADVANCE: PURDUE 59-57 (UNDER)
ATS: PURDUE -1.5
Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:07 pm to hoopsgalore
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There is no beating around the bush: SDSU sucks on offense. They slow the game down, but average less than a point per possession (210th nationally). Upside about playing low-possession games is they'll keep the game close.
I just haven't seen much west coast basketball at all this year. Not the Pac 12, much less teams like SDSU. Solid info all around.
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This is after he admitted he wasn't a good conference tournament coach.
But he still has the greatest hair in all of College basketball?
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:12 pm to LaBR4
Stop ignoring me and HELP ME OUT!!
This thread is helping some, though
This thread is helping some, though
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:14 pm to BeYou
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Excuse the wall of text but a really good write up on this match. Definitely worth a read.
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When Hammons gets in foul trouble, the whole scheme tends to go to hell,
This my kind of write up preview
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 3/17/15 at 2:16 pm to Aspercel
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Stop ignoring me and HELP ME OUT!!
phone was on silent from meeting
This post was edited on 3/17/15 at 2:17 pm
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