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re: Pujols wants the Cards to go after Manny

Posted on 1/30/09 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 6:49 pm to
he sucked as a cub also but I've never claimed his was good b/c he won games
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 6:50 pm to
Seriously with all the stats so readily available now do people still judge a pitchers talent on wins?
Posted by geauxlsu07
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 6:51 pm to
I said they weren't crappy
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 6:52 pm to
yes but you used wins to make that point, if you look at relavant stats those guys are average at best
Posted by geauxlsu07
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 6:54 pm to
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yes but you used wins to make that point,


ok Kyle Lohse

15-6 120 Ks 3.78 era 200 inn

Zambrano

14-6 130 Ks 3.92 era 188.2 inn
Posted by geauxlsu07
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 7:00 pm to
I'm not stupid and I know the Cubs have a better staff, but the Cards are not crappy by any means
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 7:01 pm to
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ok Kyle Lohse
15-6 120 Ks 3.78 era 200 inn



Ok, Lohse is good, what about the 11 other guys? Just face it, your pitching, as a whole, was crappy last year, and it's the reason the Cards finished behind Milwaukee.
Posted by geauxlsu07
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 7:03 pm to
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was crappy last year


the rotation was not crappy it was the bullpen and the 26 blown saves that was crappy
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 7:05 pm to
Loshe had his best season ever with a 1.30 Whip and 5.36 Ks/9

Zambrano had his worst season ever with a 1.29 and 6.5 ks/9

I like Zambrano's chances better than loshe next year

Bill James agrees with me.
Posted by geauxlsu07
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 7:06 pm to
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Bill James agrees with me.


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Posted by medtiger
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 7:10 pm to
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the rotation was not crappy it was the bullpen and the 26 blown saves that was crappy


Where did I call your rotation crappy? I called your pitching crappy twice and specifically referred to your bullpen once.

BTW, if we're getting this kind of discussion in January, just think what the MSB is going to be like this summer! Can't wait until your crappy pitching and the catchers report!
Posted by geauxlsu07
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 7:10 pm to
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an't wait until your crappy pitching and the catchers report!
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 7:48 pm to
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Pujols wants the Cards to go after Manny



Well, no shite he does. The Cards are doing what the Giants did with Bonds and kinda wasting his prime with nobody hitting behind him. With some protection, that might mean another 8-10 homeruns and 20+ RBI.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 7:50 pm to
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Imagine him trying to cut off one of Ankiel's throws.


When would he ever have to do this?
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 1/30/09 at 8:41 pm to
When does Manny ever need a reason to cut of another OFers throw?
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