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re: Preakness discussion- California Chrome with the win.

Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:53 pm to
Jockey at Golden Gate Fields takes the day off because his wife is having a baby. So far, four of the the first five horses he was scheduled to ride have been winners, with four different jockeys
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:28 pm to
62-1 winner in the 10th @ Churchill
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 6:42 pm to
Yeah, but better than the wrath of his wife
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:24 pm to
Favorites holding pat today at Pimlico, but some coming from behind.

off-turf today, but I would imagine they stay on tomorrow- likely a good/ soft turf unless it is hot and it dries out. dirt should be fast as it looked pretty dried out by the end of the day today.

I am playing four races tomorrow: the Very One, the Gallorette, the Sir Barton, and the JW Murphy. I will likely get my arse handed to me as I only sort of actually studied the PPs on DRF.

As for the Preakness, I like Chrome and I like Dynamic Impact- I think he ran a credible race last out and the second place was the poor horse huffing and puffing behind Chrome in the San Felipe.
I want to absolutely play against ROC because he is the ultimate excuse horse, and never seems to win. Alas, my problem is I bet the tri box, and the MFer is likely to just get a nose it to ruin it for me. I also have no idea what to do with Social Inclusion- I hated his Wood- watching a replay and there was no reason why he shouldn't have won. It wasn't that nasty a pace. However, his breeding is distance all the way. I guess I would be foolish not to put him in a tri box, especially since I don't like much else in the race. To Red Bullet or not to Red Bullet indeed.

So, I will probably just go CC, DI, SI, and GAR. Would have loved to have seen Samraat in here.

Not too worried about some big traffic jam. A faster pace usually actually spreads a field out more. There may be a 3 way duel, but whatcanyado?

yes, I am a vet. Was sorry to hear about Wise Dan, but if they did not do an enterotomy, then the only thing that will be an issue is the healing of the linea which should be good to go after 2 months. of course, horses that colicked once can often do so again, even if they are standing out in a pasture. The only difference is the time til someone notices the problem. However, I was intrigued to hear the quoted prognosis as "fair" and not "good". Also, horses' SI don't usually flip over on themselves but twist around or through something like a lipoma, or a tear in the mesentery. Maybe a lipoma had started a problem, but they caught it before it became completely strangulated. It is also possible that a bad enteritis caused something like an intussusception, but those also usually require resection. Apparently the surgeon saw a bit of SI he did not like on ultrasound. This usually means a thickened wall or just a but of really gas distended SI. I think it may be the former and the SI involved while questionable, was not dead, so they left it in and that would explain the fair vs good prognosis.
Of course, could be completely talking out of my arse

However, that was a quick surgery and it sounds like he recovered well, so he should be good to go. I certainly hope so.

Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 8:44 pm to
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Was sorry to hear about Wise Dan, but if they did not do an enterotomy, then the only thing that will be an issue is the healing of the linea which should be good to go after 2 months. of course, horses that colicked once can often do so again, even if they are standing out in a pasture. The only difference is the time til someone notices the problem. However, I was intrigued to hear the quoted prognosis as "fair" and not "good". Also, horses' SI don't usually flip over on themselves but twist around or through something like a lipoma, or a tear in the mesentery. Maybe a lipoma had started a problem, but they caught it before it became completely strangulated. It is also possible that a bad enteritis caused something like an intussusception, but those also usually require resection. Apparently the surgeon saw a bit of SI he did not like on ultrasound. This usually means a thickened wall or just a but of really gas distended SI. I think it may be the former and the SI involved while questionable, was not dead, so they left it in and that would explain the fair vs good prognosis.


You might as well have typed this in German.

quote:

However, that was a quick surgery and it sounds like he recovered well, so he should be good to go. I certainly hope so.



That's what I want to hear.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
116778 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 9:42 pm to
Good guess on my part

So I'm the only one showing Cruz any love?

I just hope chrome can do it. I like him :)
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24806 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:02 pm to
It's not that I don't like Cruz. He just has more questions than answers IMO. I always try to dumb down races like this. Chrome has far and away best class. It's going to take something crazy to beat him. His blister, teams terrible, gets caught in speed duel. He gets the same trip in the derby and he rolls.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
116778 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:05 pm to
I'm hoping to make it up to keeneland for fall. Not sure if we'll have anything to run or not, but I can't wait to see it go back to dirt.
Posted by TN_Tigers
West Tennessee
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:11 pm to
I can see Cruz running 3rd.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:12 pm to
In the end , i just decided to bet DI place and show and be content losing my money on the other races.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
116778 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:19 pm to
Anyone have any thoughts of the general hitting the board at a big price? I give the guy who have me my horse a 5 horse tri box and I'm thinking of putting him in.

Ill like the filly more after she spends more time in the Amoss barn and I really can't jump on bayern. I did not like his last race. I know they are going blinkers off, but I still think he's up there early.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:47 pm to
I think both Gen A Rod and Ria Antonia could run evenly to grab a show spot, but I really just don't think GAR wants the distance. RA just isn't fast enough.

I just watched a taped video from yesterday from CC coming back from training and LMAO when CC basically being ridden by Delgado with a pinkie or two on a long rein and a stable pony are walking by a camera well. The pony flips out, and CC just looks at him, and basically his look says, "Dude, it is a camera. Chill." And he and Delgado continue on their merry way plodding along. He gets anxious in the gate, but that is because he is ready to GO.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
116778 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 10:52 pm to


That's like lava man needing a pony when he ponied ill have another a few years ago.

Was excited to see perfect drift as chrome's pony for the derby. Made some money on him back in the day.
Posted by zztop1234
Denham Springs
Member since Aug 2008
3712 posts
Posted on 5/16/14 at 11:25 pm to
3,8,10 tri
3 w 8,10,2,1 w 8,10,2,1 w 8,10,2,1 Super

this is what I am going with

good luck boys
Posted by crowbar832001
Member since Dec 2008
3664 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 5:12 am to
I am throwing out 4 horses:
2 General Arod
6 Ria Antonia
7 Kid Cruz
9 Pablo Del Monte

I am making bets with the other 6 hoping Crome loses.

Ex - $5 Box 1,4,5 - $30 bet
Tri - $1 1,4,5 w 1,3,4,5,8 w 1,3,4,5,8,10-$48 bet
Across the board - $5 on the 1 and 4

Either I hit big or lose it all.
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24806 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 7:56 am to
Just talked to one of the vets handling Wise Dan. Says he's doing great and will have somebody on his back in 6 weeks as long as nothing crazy happens.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
116778 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 8:00 am to
Good to hear
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14607 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 8:05 am to
this is a really bad preakness field, might be the worst in past 25+ years

Posted by zztop1234
Denham Springs
Member since Aug 2008
3712 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 9:31 am to
quote:

Either I hit big or lose it all.


that is how I roll but I think CC is bad to the bone
Posted by dash-right-93-berlin
Midway KY
Member since Jan 2006
995 posts
Posted on 5/17/14 at 9:45 am to
Posted by Aspercel
And if they get it, work be damned. My arse will be there

Aspy, I live less than 10 minutes away you can stay with us and muck stalls for room and board !! LOL
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