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Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:28 pm to SBC
Not ordinary and not immediately.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:30 pm to Bho
I disagree. Was not ordinary catch and not called immediately. Rule was not applied correctly.
This post was edited on 10/5/12 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:31 pm to LSUsmartass
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an argument can be made about not applying the rule in the correct manner
I wish they would change it, but there is a .000000000001 percent chance. That's only because Bud Selig is in charge. It's not an incorrect application and here is why. Was there runners on at least first and second? Yes....In Sam Holbrook's judgement, the ball could be played by the SS with normal effort. So there is no interpretation of the rule. It was in the umpires' judgement that the call should be made. He made it. I think he was wrong.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:32 pm to SBC
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Was not ordinary catch and not called immediately
The rule doesn't say immediate. When it becomes apparent to the umpire he then call it immediately.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:32 pm to Bho
Did not call it immediately. Not applied correctly.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:33 pm to SBC
Okay you are the expert.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:34 pm to SBC
lol, you're just trolling
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:35 pm to SBC
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Did not call it immediately. Not applied correctly.
When he made the called had no impact on the game.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:37 pm to Bho
Did I hear this right? The two hearing the protest are former Cards, prominent ones even, Torre and Garagiolla?
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:37 pm to TigerintheNO
Wtf are you talking about no impact. You are an idiot
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:41 pm to SBC
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Wtf are you talking about no impact. You are an idiot
Whether he made his judgement call earlier wouldnt have changed anything. The batter would still have been out and the runners would still advance. If you think that the protest will be upheld and the game replayed, you are the idiot.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:43 pm to TigerintheNO
MLB TV just read straight from the rule book that a decision should be made immediately
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:45 pm to LSUsmartass
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Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder?not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire?s judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire?s judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately.
Bho, this is straight from the official rules page on MLB.com under infield fly rule
Thoughts?
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:46 pm to LSUsmartass
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:50 pm to LSUsmartass
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Bho, this is straight from the official rules page on MLB.com under infield fly rule
Thoughts?
you left out rest of the sentence
for the benefit of the runners
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:52 pm to LSUsmartass
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Bho, this is straight from the official rules page on MLB.com under infield fly rule
I linked it earlier. It says earlier that "when it becomes apparent". I literally copy and pasted the whole section.
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The umpire?s judgment must govern,
This is why there isn't any hope in the protest. They will ask the umpire and he will say that he made the call when the SS threw his arms out and in his judgement it was routine. I have taken many courses on baseball rules. I've been involved in protests, obviously not at major league level, but I was trying to provide you some insight on how they will interpret the call and what is and is not judgement.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:54 pm to LSUsmartass
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MLB TV just read straight from the rule book that a decision should be made immediately
NO IT DOESN'T. It says he must immediately call it ONCE IT BECOMES APPARENT THAT IT IS AN INFIELD FLY. Say they had to make it immediate, if the ball comes off the bat and 1 second later it is called, I could argue that it wasn't immediate, and win a protest.
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:55 pm to Bho
Ok
Posted on 10/5/12 at 7:58 pm to LSUsmartass
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LSUsmartass
Seriously, I'm not trying to be an a-hole here. The infield fly rule is the most common rule that fans don't understand. Every game I have ever coached in where an umpire calls this in the grass, there are 4 or 5 fans screaming that it was in the OF. I still think this call was bad and if I was Freddy, I would have been tossed and filed a protest as well. The worst that can happen is they say no.
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