re: Pitching longevity question

One of the greatest cons ever is convincing parents they need to pay thousands of dollars to kill their sons arms.

Pretty brilliant.

Likely

The first thing young pitchers need to learn is to throw their fastball for strikes. Everything flows from that.

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7 and 8 year olds throwing 60 pitches playing travel ball on the weekend

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7/8’s aren’t kid pitch bud

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Friends, what is everyone's theory as to why there so many pitchers in the MLB and even college that are getting injured at a high level? I read a book about Nolan Ryan, and he specifically said the reason for his success was recovery after games, and staying fit between starts. He also said kids nowadays are throwing way too much at 12 and 13 with undeveloped arms. Especially a 9th grader throwing curves , etc and travel ball ruins more than it fundamentally helps. Ryan said he didn't start throwing breaking balls until he was 16 or 17. I am curious to what everyone thinks.

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1) curve balls are easier on the elbow that fastballs

2) over use is a big issue in youth but a bigger issue is under prepared for the demands of the game. What i mean by that is, kids now a days want to shut down until practice starts...so 2 weeks and then boom...you are in competition and competition tends to cause them to throw as hard as they can. well they are underprepared for that as they failed to do a proper on ramp. even happens in the mlb and its why you see a huge injury spike at the start of the season

3) most pitchers not in mlb or big time D1 are severly under muscled. they because of the lack of muscle and strength they are placing way too much stress on the ligaments.

there are other reason but most happen because they have bad er/ir strength balance, they chase advanced programming instead of the lowest hanging fruit, they fail to take recovery seriously and they fail in the weight room/kitchen.....yet they are trying to throw hard


i didnt read whole thread but there will be idiots blaming weighted balls(which actually force less elbow valgus stress), there will be blaming of curveballs, again less stress, there will be those that blame strength training, all idiots who have zero clue and only repeating what they have heard instead of doing actual research


bottomline though is the demands of the game now require velocity, elite velocity....that requires risk


and if anyone brings up greg maddux....stfu....he threw 96 and will tell you only reason he got a shot was because of velo. and pitchers arent getting calls in other batters box now, cant use scuffed balls, and cant use sticky stuff. stfu, it was so easy, everyone would be greg maddox but there has only been one and zero similar to him since he retired.

Can’t use Ryan??? Ok how about all the other pitchers even in the 80’s and 90’s that would go 8 or 9 innings every start.