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re: PFT lists the top 10 QB's of the decade.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:09 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:09 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Sooooo...what makes Brady the best?
It might have something to do with the two NFL MVP awards, the three All-Pro appearances, and the nine Pro Bowl selections.
Just a hunch.
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:27 pm to Bench McElroy
There is no way Brees is ahead of Rodgers. Hell there is no case for him over Brady either. Wilson is debatable, but at best Brees is 3rd and that’s his absolute ceiling.
Y’all get caught up in counting stats. Dude was the king of garbage time stats. Looks great on your fantasy league, means frick all on the field.
Y’all get caught up in counting stats. Dude was the king of garbage time stats. Looks great on your fantasy league, means frick all on the field.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:41 pm to RollTide1987
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Jim Plunkett threw 164 TDs to 198 interceptions. I swear you people are so obtuse. RINGS aren't the only deciding factor to a QB's legacy. The numbers he puts up also factor heavily into it.
Marino had the numbers but he never got a ring. Montana had both the numbers and the rings. That's why he was always consistently ranked ahead of Marino. Want further proof he was looked on more favorably than Marino was in the 80s? Just look at the 1980s NFL All-Decade Team. Joe Montana is listed as the starting QB. Not Marino.
Ok, well let me do this little game:
Quarterback A
Career completion percentage: 57%
Career passing yards: 22,700
Career touchdowns: 153
Career interceptions: 109
Career quarterback rating: 83.4
Total Super Bowl rings: 2
Quarterback B
Career completion percentage: 52%
Career passing yards: 27,989
Career touchdowns: 212
Career interceptions: 210
Career quarterback rating: 71
Total Super Bowl rings: 4
Who’s the better quarterback?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:45 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Bradshaw and whoever the other guy is are both about even as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: Yeah...that other guy is Roger Staubach. In terms of ability...they're about the same.
Edit: Yeah...that other guy is Roger Staubach. In terms of ability...they're about the same.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:48 pm to RollTide1987
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And yet Dan Fouts is listed as second string behind Montana on the 80s All-Decade Team. Marino isn't anywhere to be found. I hate to break it to you, but you're wrong. He might have been considered the best QB in the league for a couple of years, but he obviously wasn't consistent enough to earn a spot on the All-Decade Team.
Bruh, you’re fricking high if you think Dan Fouts is in the same stratosphere as Marino.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:50 pm to RollTide1987
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Bradshaw and whoever the other guy is are both about even as far as I'm concerned.
Edit: Yeah...that other guy is Roger Staubach. In terms of ability...they're about the same.
Bradshaw played two more years than Staubach. I think most everybody would put Staubach a few spots ahead of Bradshaw probably because Staubach was a better quarterback than Bradshaw.
If you argue otherwise then I’ve got some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:51 pm to TheeRealCarolina
quote:Brees has a better passer rating than everyone you mentioned... in the postseason.
Y’all get caught up in counting stats. Dude was the king of garbage time stats. Looks great on your fantasy league, means frick all on the field.
So there goes your garbage time nonsensical argument. What do you want to try next?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:56 pm to shel311
Do they stop tracking passer rating in garbage time?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:58 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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I think most everybody would put Staubach a few spots ahead of Bradshaw probably because Staubach was a better quarterback than Bradshaw.
And yet Bradshaw was the first string QB on the NFL's All-Decade Team for the 1970s while Roger Staubach was second string.
I think that implodes your argument.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:01 pm to RollTide1987
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And yet Bradshaw was the first string QB on the NFL's All-Decade Team for the 1970s while Roger Staubach was second string.
I think that implodes your argument.
No it doesn’t. By any metric you want to use, Staubach was a better quarterback than Bradshaw. Except for one, which is a team achievement and should be used as part of the rankings sure. But it shouldn’t hold near as much weight as it does.
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There is only one Roger Staubach. There will never be another player like him, much less quarterback. He served in the Navy for four years, including a tour in Vietnam, upon graduating from the academy and was the ultimate franchise representative, embodying all that was right about professional sports while never being a distraction to his team, save for the artificial one Tom Landry created when he began rotating a young Staubach and Craig Morton EVERY PLAY. What young quarterback has ever had to deal with THAT? Staubach was the face of the franchise, and by the late 1970s, the face of the entire league. In the middle of it all was a relatively brief, yet exemplary career. In only eight seasons as a starter, Staubach started four Super Bowls (winning two), led the league in passer rating four times, and finished with an 85-29 record.
Losing out on those four seasons while he served in the Navy and the fact that he might have played longer had injuries, especially concussions, not piled up on him ultimately hurts Staubach on this list. Rightfully so, as longevity is part of the deal. Yet, Staubach didn't go out with a whimper like so many Hall of Fame quarterbacks. He led the NFC in passer rating in each of his final three seasons, and made the Pro Bowl in each of those years. Staubach led a ferocious comeback in his final regular season game, throwing two touchdowns in the final two minutes and change to beat the Redskins, and win the NFC East. He didn't merely end with a flourish, either. In Staubach's first full season as a starter, he went 13-0, won the Super Bowl, and finished with a 104.8 passer rating, the loftiest mark of the 1970s.
Stat you need to know: Staubach's .746 winning percentage ranks second all-time among quarterbacks with 100 starts. Only Tom Brady can claim a superior winning percentage with a sterling .775. While Staubach "only" went 2-2 in his four Super Bowl starts, his two losses came by a grand total of eight points. The Cowboys averaged almost 25 points per game in those contests, despite going against defenses that had finished third, second, third, and first in points allowed in the season when they met. Combined, those opponents -- the Dolphins, Broncos, and both Steelers defensive units -- gave up 11.7 points per game. So you could say Roger the Dodger did more than all right.
This post was edited on 12/27/19 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:03 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Clearly the experts disagree with you. Thank you for playing though.
Your uninformed subjective opinion doesn't beat out Canton's professional takes. So sorry.
Your uninformed subjective opinion doesn't beat out Canton's professional takes. So sorry.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:06 pm to lsupride87
Agree with everyone about Brees>Wilson
But can we talk about Cam>Ryan? That is absolutely laughable
But can we talk about Cam>Ryan? That is absolutely laughable
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:08 pm to RollTide1987
quote:go ahead and tell me how much garbage time stats in losses Drew Brees has racked up in the postseason.
Do they stop tracking passer rating in garbage time?
I'll wait, I'm sure you'll check, and come back and tell me you realize I'm correct here.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:08 pm to RollTide1987
That’s weird, as Roger Staubach is rated a whole 9 spots higher on the NFL’s own all time greatest quarterbacks.
Furthermore, which metrics were the pickers using when they idiotically selected Terry Bradshaw as the best quarterback of the 70s?
Furthermore, which metrics were the pickers using when they idiotically selected Terry Bradshaw as the best quarterback of the 70s?
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:12 pm to RollTide1987
I really want you to try and explain to me how Terry Bradshaw was a better quarterback than Roger Staubach
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:18 pm to RollTide1987
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Clearly the experts disagree with you. Thank you for playing though.
Your uninformed subjective opinion doesn't beat out Canton's professional takes. So sorry.
Your arse really just tried to allude that since Dan fricking Fouts was on the second team of the All 80s team and Marino wasn’t even on the team means that Fouts is obviously on the same level as Marino.
I think it’s safe to say, you know frickall about how to rank a quarterback.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:26 pm to TheeRealCarolina
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Y’all get caught up in counting stats. Dude was the king of garbage time stats. Looks great on your fantasy league, means frick all on the field.
The Saints have played 11 total games officially eliminated from playoff contention in the Brees era so I'm curious to know how you came to this conclusion.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:32 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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Horrible list. Will not be visiting PFT to take their click-bait.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:36 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Your arse really just tried to allude that since Dan fricking Fouts was on the second team of the All 80s team and Marino wasn’t even on the team means that Fouts is obviously on the same level as Marino.
You seem to be getting very angry about this.
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I think it’s safe to say, you know frickall about how to rank a quarterback.
I'm not the one who ranked them. The Pro Football Hall of Fame ranked them. I just copy off of their paper when presenting the data here.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 7:37 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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I really want you to try and explain to me how Terry Bradshaw was a better quarterback than Roger Staubach
Where did I say he was better? I simply said, looking at their stats, they're about even.
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