- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Peyton Manning's Top 5 QB's
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:46 am to whatiknowsofar
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:46 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:
Did josh "completely eliminate the turnovers" that game or did he not?
I never commented on that? You really are out of your element.
quote:
Try again dairy I'm dumb sanders
Oh wow. Much wit. Such insult. Lol
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:48 am to lsupride87
quote:
That would be 10 turnovers in a 17 game season. If Allen did that in the regular season he is MVP with ease
Not of he throws up qb ratings of 69% in 20% of those games.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:49 am to Dairy Sanders
quote:
never commented on that? You really are out of your element.
It was in response to my comment on it? You're clueless kid.
quote:
wow. Much wit. Such insult. Lol
This has been a big day for you. Take some lithium and chill bud
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:52 am to whatiknowsofar
quote:Yes, he would
Not of he throws up qb ratings of 69% in 20% of those games.
Lamar won mvp this year and he had 2 games with a passer rating under 70. 4 with a rating under 80
I promise you is Allen averages his playoff numbers for the regular season , he is mvp.
64.6%—328.6 yards/game—2.6 tds/game—0.4 int/game—100 rating
For perspective that would be 5,576 yards, 44 tds, and only 7 ints
I understand you hate him with a passion, but his level and ability to outperform his regular season self in the playoffs is unique and elite.
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 10:54 am
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:56 am to whatiknowsofar
And yet his passer rating is still over 6 points better than Burrow’s in the playoffs. That doesn’t even factor in his contribute as runner. That makes it a landslide lol.
Again there is no individual measurement that points to Burrow being a better player. None. His team made a SB. Cool. That’s a team accomplishment and has nothing to do with individual players, especially when Burrow was thoroughly mediocre during that run. Everyone outside of Burrow stans - including legit Bengals fans - knows that the defense and special teams carried them.
Again there is no individual measurement that points to Burrow being a better player. None. His team made a SB. Cool. That’s a team accomplishment and has nothing to do with individual players, especially when Burrow was thoroughly mediocre during that run. Everyone outside of Burrow stans - including legit Bengals fans - knows that the defense and special teams carried them.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 10:58 am to Dairy Sanders
In the playoffs the bengals have been a defensive led team. That is 100% accurate
But burrow has a clear advantage over Allen in regular season turnovers. There absolutely is an argument to to be made for burrow over Allen if one chooses it
But burrow has a clear advantage over Allen in regular season turnovers. There absolutely is an argument to to be made for burrow over Allen if one chooses it
Posted on 8/20/24 at 11:19 am to lsupride87
quote:
But burrow has a clear advantage over Allen in regular season turnovers
And passer rating at their 25 and 26 age years.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 11:20 am to Dairy Sanders
quote:
Again there is no individual measurement that points to Burrow being a better player. None.
Bulllllllshit. Dairy I'm dumb Sanders why do you have to speak in false hyperbole so much? We know how dumb you are, no need to reinforce it with silly comments like this.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 11:42 am to lsupride87
quote:
Joe burrow teams give up 18 ppg in the playoffs
Josh Allen teams give up 24
For reference, a 6 difference is the margin of the #1 scoring defense vs the 18th
This “more with less” is a fabricated lsu fan token line
Bengals have the better WR corps
They have had by far a better defense in the playoffs as well
Bills have had a better O line
I'm not arguing the defense, Joe Burrow and Josh Allen have nothing to do with that. "More with less" is not an argument I've seen made, albeit I have rarely had this discussion, it's just my opinion, so I don't know what is some fabricated LSU fan token line.
Bengals have the edge in WR's but let's not act like Allen was hurting there. He had an all pro WR and a solid #2. The gap wasn't that big. The OL is more important for the offense's success overall than the 2nd and 3rd WR options and the Bengals O-Line was BY FAR worse. Like a pathetic offensive line. It's not hard to see why someone would make that argument, and it's not just an LSU argument.
And like I said, its a toss up. I mean you basically said the same thing earlier in the thread. You can look at numerous websites rankings and one will have Burrow ahead and the next will have Allen ahead. This isn't some LSU board conspiracy. Obviously much more here lean Burrow but even if you take it outside the Tigerdroppings bubble, it's a pretty even split.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 11:44 am to iwyLSUiwy
quote:I do 100% agree with this
And like I said, its a toss up. I mean you basically said the same thing earlier in the thread. You can look at numerous websites rankings and one will have Burrow ahead and the next will have Allen ahead. This isn't some LSU board conspiracy. Obviously much more here lean Burrow but even if you take it outside the Tigerdroppings bubble, it's a pretty even split.
But I do not believe that is the overall sentiment of this website
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 11:45 am
Posted on 8/20/24 at 11:58 am to lsupride87
quote:
But burrow has a clear advantage over Allen in regular season turnovers. There absolutely is an argument to to be made for burrow over Allen if one chooses it
True, but Allen does have to do more for his offense than Burrow has to do for his and we did see that Burrow’s numbers were matched by a back up who hadn’t started since college last season.
For me, their talent and performances speak clearly to who is better. Like I said, the top 3 are pretty set right now. 4-10 are all pretty equal and about preference.
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 11:59 am
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:05 pm to bcoop199
Allen is the best one. Put him on the Chiefs and he is doing everything that Mahomes is doing and more. Allen had better TD to Int ration last year too with one of the worst offensive line in the league. He also had more bad weather games to play in than Mahomes.
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:09 pm to holdmuh keystonelite
Bills did not have a bad o line. I will say I do think they had the worst coordinator in all od football before they fired him. It was night and day difference once Dorsey left
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:12 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Bills did not have a bad o line. I will say I do think they had the worst coordinator in all od football before they fired him. It was night and day difference once Dorsey left
Exactly. It's amazing people just seem to forget how good Allen is because he didn't have as good of a year as the one before. Yet it was still a good year especially when you consider all the factors he dealt with. Diggs being a bitch, horrible offensive line, terrible coordinator for over half of the season.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:16 pm to holdmuh keystonelite
Dude the line wasn’t terrible
I would say they were top 10
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:19 pm to lsupride87
Wrong. Every ranking you find the Bill's was bottom 10. Some had them as 3rd worst.
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:24 pm to holdmuh keystonelite
This PFF had them ranked 23rd. Not as bad as i thought but still one of the 10 worst. LINK
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:28 pm to lsupride87
22. Buffalo Bills
In third-and-long situations, Buffalo’s offensive line allowed pressure in 2.5 seconds or less at a league-worst 45.9% rate. Without any notable changes to the first-team unit, don’t expect much improvement in 2024.
In third-and-long situations, Buffalo’s offensive line allowed pressure in 2.5 seconds or less at a league-worst 45.9% rate. Without any notable changes to the first-team unit, don’t expect much improvement in 2024.
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:31 pm to holdmuh keystonelite
LINK
Chiefs offensive line ranked 3rd best and Mahomes still threw 14 interceptions. Put him on Bill's and he probably throws 20 interceptions. It's unreal the hype this guy gets being surrounded by the best play caller and one of the top offensive line in the league.
Chiefs offensive line ranked 3rd best and Mahomes still threw 14 interceptions. Put him on Bill's and he probably throws 20 interceptions. It's unreal the hype this guy gets being surrounded by the best play caller and one of the top offensive line in the league.
This post was edited on 8/20/24 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:47 pm to holdmuh keystonelite
quote:No
This PFF had them ranked 23rd. Not as bad as i thought but still one of the 10 worst. LINK
You posted an article from July 2023….That is the 2022 o line ranking
PFF rated our o line 6th for the 2023 season
LINK
Popular
Back to top


1




