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re: Perfect Case in this Article for Why Joe Paterno should resign/be fired
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:03 pm to Nittany Lion
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:03 pm to Nittany Lion
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Nittany Lion
So what are people in your part of the world saying about this? I know everyone is disgusted with Sandusky, but are PSU fans defending Paterno, Curley & Schutlz?
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:04 pm to TreyAnastasio
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Sorry reporting it to the AD is not enough. Its just not. This isn't a recruiting violation. The police should have been his first call. Anything short of that is disgusting.
Why not? It's not like he didn't report it to anybody. If he tried to just keep it quiet that's one thing, but he told the AD. It's the administration's job to report it to the police, not the football coach.
JoePa is not a babysitter.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:04 pm to TreyAnastasio
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He knew that Sandusky was a sexual predator when he forced him into retirement at 55.
that doesn't mean he knowingly, as you say, 'let him continue his actions'.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:05 pm to JG77056
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If a teacher in a school is in the same situation, she reports it to the principal. JoePa is the football coach at Penn St. He's not the University president. He reported it to the higher ups
If that is Penn State's protocol that then that is Penn State's protocol. Now, they have to PROVE that JoePa followed the protocol. If he did...like I said, that would make a little difference.
Then the administration has to answer to how they responded.
But to allow Sandusky to run overnight camps for 9 year old's using Penn State's name is a whole different issue as well.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:06 pm to Lester Earl
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that doesn't mean he knowingly, as you say, 'let him continue his actions'.
He allowed him to maintain an office in the building. Then again in 02 he was allowed to stay on campus. He wasn't barred from campus until yesterday.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:06 pm to TreyAnastasio
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He knew that Sandusky was a sexual predator when he forced him into retirement at 55.
Wait I'm confused, he forced him into retirement, told his AD about the allegations, and he's still Hitler. Awesome.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:06 pm to JG77056
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JoePa is not a babysitter.
That's where you're wrong...JoePa = football coach, babysitter, AD, university president and apparently should write the police blotter if you read through the thread.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:07 pm to TreyAnastasio
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He allowed him to maintain an office in the building. Then again in 02 he was allowed to stay on campus. He wasn't barred from campus until yesterday.
that doesn't mean he knowingly, as you say, 'let him continue his actions'.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:07 pm to JG77056
Bruce Feldman
PA Attorney General says leaders at PennSt's inaction likely allowed a child predator to continue to victimize children for years.
PA Attorney General says leaders at PennSt's inaction likely allowed a child predator to continue to victimize children for years.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:08 pm to Lester Earl
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that doesn't mean he knowingly, as you say, 'let him continue his actions'.
How do you figure that? He knew the man was a sexual predator and still allowed him around children with the University's endorsement.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:10 pm to Rickety Cricket
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Why the concerted effort to cover up for a former coach?
Arrogance. They figured they could get away with it because of who they are.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:10 pm to Lester Earl
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that doesn't mean he knowingly, as you say, 'let him continue his actions'.
He was that oblivious to it all?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:11 pm to TreyAnastasio
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How do you figure that? He knew the man was a sexual predator and still allowed him around children with the University's endorsement.
how do i figure that?
you are saying for nearly a decade Joe Pa knowingly let Sandusky rape kids on PSU campus and did nothing about it. That is crazy.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:11 pm to Lester Earl
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I didn't note specific dates. But college football is 365/24/7 job. Especially at a huge football school like Penn State.
And big enough to cover up sexual abuse by a coach? Especially at a huge football school like Penn State?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:13 pm to c on z
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He was that oblivious to it all?
well, read the reports. Most of the allegations take place after hours. Many in his own home.
Do you think Joe Pa walks by in the hallway and gives a wave to Sandusky and some 12 year old boy heading towards the showers in their towels?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:13 pm to JG77056
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Where do some of you get this shite? Do you just try to make the most broad reaches you can in hopes that others will latch on?
How is calling the police when you learn of a child getting raped a "broad reach"?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:14 pm to Lester Earl
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you are saying for nearly a decade Joe Pa knowingly let Sandusky rape kids on PSU campus and did nothing about it. That is crazy
No, that's what happened. And it wasn't just Joepa that let it happen, The AD's office and Presidents office are also to blame here.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:15 pm to LSUPHILLY72
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And big enough to cover up sexual abuse by a coach? Especially at a huge football school like Penn State?
that's a pretty big accusation to say he was involved in a cover up.
I'd let all the facts come out before i start slanging BS like that.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:15 pm to Lester Earl
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So you would me more mad at Joe Pa and not the actual people that witnessed these acts first hand?
No.
What he and others are saying is that JoePa is not innocent in this matter and he shares some of the culpability in the cover-up.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:16 pm to TreyAnastasio
Pete Thamel
Investigator Frank Noonan: "Its not a case about football or a university. Its about children that had their innocence stolen."
Pete Thamel
Noonan doesn't recall a case where people who witnessed an act did not go to police. "I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that"
Bruce Feldman
PA Police investigator: This is abt children having their innocence stolen from them & about a culture that did nothing to stop it.
Investigator Frank Noonan: "Its not a case about football or a university. Its about children that had their innocence stolen."
Pete Thamel
Noonan doesn't recall a case where people who witnessed an act did not go to police. "I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that"
Bruce Feldman
PA Police investigator: This is abt children having their innocence stolen from them & about a culture that did nothing to stop it.
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