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re: Per The Athletic: Pressure building for an 8 team playoff from conference/school admins
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:54 am to High C
Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:54 am to High C
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individual interests
And therein lies the ultimate problem.
We’re asking individual schools which are controlled, operated and directed by state governments (as well as private institutions) to give up their control for the sake of placating the public just so we can crown a “true” national champion.
There’s no way that will ever happen. Schools are not going to surrender their individual power so a bunch of retards on the internet can crow on about dem ‘ships. So, we’re left with stupid shite arguments about 4-team to 16-tram playoffs with wildly varied stipulations. Autobids, computer analysis, strength of schedules, wild cards...It’s pointless and fruitless.
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 10:54 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:The auto bid plan opens the door for a 6-loss team to get in over the nation’s #5 team. Ridiculous.
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What deserving team gets left out under 5 auto bids, a G5 component, and 2/3 at large teams, especially compared to the current model?
None. There's no legitimate argument against it other than nostalgia.
quote:What conference did ND win?
I say this as a Michigan fan--i'd not argue them getting left out in this scenario. Didn't win their conference and got run off the field by a non-playoff team late in the year. Sorry. Maybe don't lose to ND next time.
Washington lost to three teams who are now unranked, but you put them in over Michigan, your argument against whom is their losses to #2 and #6?
96 of the 110 rating systems in the Massey composite have Michigan in the top 8.
Taking the top 8 is fine; the auto bid plan is absolutely horrible.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 10:57 am
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:02 am to xiv
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96 of the 110 rating systems in the Massey composite have Michigan in the top 8.
Because they have "good" losses. That shite is so ridiculous though. Who did they beat? Colley has them with 1 Top 25 win and 3 Top 50 wins. Washington has 3 Top 25 wins and 5 Top 50 wins. They have no common opponents. Let them go ahead of Michigan.
Every P5 team has two avenues to make the 8 team playoff. I'm not going to lose any sleep over a team failing to win their conference AND failing to be one of the top non-conference winners.
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Taking the top 8 is fine; the auto bid plan is absolutely horrible.
There isn't a big 3 sport at any level that fails to take conference/division winners in their playoffs. No level of football in the country takes the top 2/4/8/16/32 etc without guaranteeing all conference champs get in first, but apparently it's a good deal for FBS football?
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:03 am to xiv
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The auto bid plan opens the door for a 6-loss team to get in over the nation’s #5 team. Ridiculous.
Not as ridiculous as the current guarantee that a legitimate conference champion doesn't even have a shot at a national title. Sometimes two legitimate conference champions. That is true absurdity.
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What conference did ND win?
None. Irrelevant. They'll always be competing for an at-large. Some years they'll have the resume to stack up, others they won't. No big deal.
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Washington lost to three teams who are now unranked
Yet won their conference. Michigan failed to do so. You win your conference, you control your destiny to have a title shot.
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Taking the top 8 is fine; the auto bid plan is absolutely horrible.
Not at all. The auto bid plan takes subjectivity out of the equation for the majority of the spots and keeps an emphasis on winning your conference. Bama beating LSU matters. Florida beating SC matters.
I'm fine with haggling over the merits of 6-8 who failed to win their conference over whether they get in or not.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:14 am to slackster
quote:They also have fewer losses, but don’t let relevant facts get in the way of this awful hill you’re trying to die on.
Because they have "good" losses.
quote:FYI you can’t win arguments like this against me if you’re going to cherry-pick like that.
Who did they beat? Colley has them with 1 Top 25 win and 3 Top 50 wins. Washington has 3 Top 25 wins and 5 Top 50 wins.
School - WL% - opps’ WL% - opps’ opps’ WL%
Michigan - .833 - .577 - .543
Washington - .764 - .564 .528
quote:Nah, I’d rather decide it on the field. Michigan clearly is better.
They have no common opponents. Let them go ahead of Michigan.
quote:Irrelevant until we have more playoff spots than conferences.
There isn't a big 3 sport at any level that fails to take conference/division winners in their playoffs.
This post was edited on 12/13/18 at 11:15 am
Posted on 12/13/18 at 11:22 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Not as ridiculous as the current guarantee that a legitimate conference champion doesn't even have a shot at a national title. Sometimes two legitimate conference champions. That is true absurdity.
There isn't a thing wrong with excluding Washington (10-3, #9) at this point. quote:Then the same goes for Michigan and everyone else.
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What conference did ND win?
None. Irrelevant.
quote:So winning your conference matters to some teams but not for other teams. This is why this idea is horrible and poorly-thought-out.
Yet won their conference. Michigan failed to do so. You win your conference, you control your destiny to have a title shot.
quote:...for some teams ;)
keeps an emphasis on winning your conference.
quote:But Bama beating Louisville doesn't. That's why this idea sucks.
Bama beating LSU matters.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:01 pm to xiv
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There isn't a thing wrong with excluding Washington (10-3, #9) at this point.
I completely disagree. They did what was required to win their conference. That alone merits a shot to play for it all. Silly that some rationalize otherwise.
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Then the same goes for Michigan and everyone else.
Nope. If you're in a conference, win the shite to punch your ticket. If you're not, you're in a resume battle. ND would be in a perpetual resume battle if they remain independent. Some years it'll break their way, some years it won't.
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winning your conference matters to some teams but not for other teams.
Incorrect. Winning your conference matters to ensure you play for a national title. Fail to do this, and you enter the realm of subjectivity. Perfectly reasonable. The requirement to qualify automatically is clear.
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But Bama beating Louisville doesn't.
Has zero to do with winning their respective conferences.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 12:03 pm to TbirdSpur2010
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They did what was required to win their conference.
Lmao imagine being this abtuse
Posted on 12/13/18 at 1:16 pm to TbirdSpur2010
If you’re trolling, bravo. If not, it’s good that you aren’t in charge.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 1:24 pm to sicboy
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top 2 with a bye
I am in favor of this too, but no one will ever go for it because there is no money to be made when to top 2 teams sit at home.
Posted on 12/13/18 at 1:25 pm to BARNEYSTINSON
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Go back to computer rankings
I am 100% for this. Take the human bias out of the equation all together.
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