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re: Per CFP Committee member, they choose final matchups based on who they predict will win
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:14 am to Bench McElroy
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:14 am to Bench McElroy
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Their thinking would be understandable if they had dropped Florida State to #6 after the Travis injury. But they had Florida State at #4 leading up to the ACC Championship Game. Why not state that from the beginning instead of dropping FSU down at the last minute?
This would require conjecture on my part but, fortunately, there probably isn't a more accurate and well-informed place you would want to come for such abstract thinking on the subject.
The committee was expecting Oregon to beat Washington in the rematch. And they certainly were the betting favorite. That was the only reason to keep them ahead of both Texas and ALABAMA with their SOS. They also expected Georgia to beat BAMA, thus giving them the motivation to keep BAMA as the 8th seed.
When BAMA beat Georgia it was the committee's worst nightmare. Not only was BAMA getting in but they had to take Texas too. Without that BAMA victory in the SECCG, this is what the Playoff would look like:
Georgia 1 seed
Michigan 2 seed
Washington 3 seed
FSU 4 seed
Texas wasn't going until BAMA beat Georgia.
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Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:15 am to LNCHBOX
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So thinking the SEC champ is better team than the ACC champ makes me a leftist
No, but you are arguing like one. The comment above is another perfect example of that. You completely ignored the very valid point the prior poster made, then actually proved them right with the response. I hope you are smart enough to see that.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:16 am to 50_Tiger
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Remove committee and have BCS cpu assing 1-12.
Wasn't the BCS 2/3 human?
And doesn't the simulated BCS have Bama ahead of FSU this year as well?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:17 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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No, but you are arguing like one. The comment above is another perfect example of that. You completely ignored the very valid point the prior poster made, then actually proved them right with the response. I hope you are smart enough to see that.
Whatever you say. I'll just take your word that playing a game on the schedule the committee has no influence on is totally relevant to who to take over FSU and Bama. Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:20 am to bamameister
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The committee was expecting Oregon to beat Washington in the rematch.
Committee was wrong then. Which is why games are played.
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They also expected Georgia to beat BAMA
So they were wrong again.
Literally talking out of both sides of your mouth now, but this is expected from an entitled fan base.
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Texas wasn't going until BAMA beat Georgia.
Now, be honest with everyone… why was that happening to Texas? Lol
So, losing to Texas, at home, is what got you in a playoff over a team that didn’t lose….chosen by a committee you say was already woefully wrong prior.
Does your brain ever tire from the mental gymnastics? It’s ok, I know that answer too.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:20 am to bamameister
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The committee was expecting Oregon to beat Washington in the rematch. And they certainly were the betting favorite. That was the only reason to keep them ahead of both Texas and ALABAMA with their SOS. They also expected Georgia to beat BAMA
so the same committee saying they “expect” Bama to win and don’t “expect” FSU to be able to win were wrong on two huge games this past weekend alone?
Hmmmm
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:23 am to EZE Tiger Fan
it’s so amusing watching these idiots do everything they can expect say “Bama is in because they are Bama” and that’s really the end of it
Bama is in the playoffs as long as they don’t have 2 losses because they can always fall back to how good Bama should be rather than what they accomplish on the field.
Bama is in the playoffs as long as they don’t have 2 losses because they can always fall back to how good Bama should be rather than what they accomplish on the field.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:23 am to Eighteen
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so the same committee saying they expect Bama to win and don’t expect FSU to be able to win we’re wrong on two huge games this past weekend alone?
Hmmmm
Why are you struggling with my words? You were able to quote them correctly. Now, go back and try that again.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:24 am to Eighteen
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rather than what they accomplish on the field.
This is precisely what those of us who think Bama going is the right call base it off of, yall are just choosing to ignore that.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:25 am to LNCHBOX
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I'll just take your word that playing a game on the schedule the committee has no influence on is totally relevant to who to take over FSU and Bama.
Your argument was that we “know” FSU would lose because they wouldn’t be favored in a playoff game. Other poster points out that Bama wasn’t favored over UGA. According to your logic, we should have not given Bama a shot due to them not being favored, but since they got a shot and won, they deserve some imaginary advantage you aren’t willing to give FSU in a similar scenario.
It’s mental gymnastics.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:28 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Your argument was that we “know” FSU would lose because they wouldn’t be favored in a playoff game.
No, my argument has been Bama's resume is more impressive even with one loss. Bama being favored in a hypothetical matchup is a result of the resume, not the cause for the argument,
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It’s mental gymnastics.
For you it certainly seems to be.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:29 am to LNCHBOX
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Almost as if the teams you play against matter
Yeah, the Big 10 offenses are so disgustingly bad, that Michigan’s QB can turn around and hand the ball off 30 times a game and just throw it 8. And rely on their defense. Which is what Florida State should have been allowed to attempt to win like. Hell, they’ve got 3 WRs better than anybody on Michigan’s roster, and their RB is better too.
Why is Michigan the only team allowed to win with a good defense and a 1960s offense? Or allowed to try, I guess. They got fricking pantsed by TCU and the Fighting Max Dugans in the playoffs last year. Will likely get embarrassed even worse against Bama in a month. That offense can’t score against Bama’s D.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:30 am to LNCHBOX
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It's exactly what they're tasked to do
But have they really done this? They used this argument to put alabama ahead of fsu. But if we're using that logic, does anyone really believe Washington, or Texas for that matter, is better than Georgia? To inject subjectivity is a slippery slope for a sport decided by points on the field and not judges. The playoff rules should have been written to favor results and SOS not an injury report.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:30 am to LNCHBOX
Are you in favor of keeping the 4-team playoff?
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:30 am to bamameister
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Why are you struggling with my words?
We aren’t. We understand you quite well. You’re owning both sides of an argument to make yourself “right”. You sound like a politician or a lawyer. We called you out on it, so now the next logical step for someone like you is to either call us stupid, or mock our very valid point.
I expect both will happen and I know you won’t disappoint. It is what liars do when they are busted.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:31 am to Hot Carl
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Yeah, the Big 10 offenses are so disgustingly bad, that Michigan’s QB can turn around and hand the ball off 30 times a game and just throw it 8. And rely on their defense. Which is what Florida State should have been allowed to attempt to win like. Hell, they’ve got 3 WRs better than anybody on Michigan’s roster, and their RB is better too.
Awfully lot of personal opinion that doesn't pan out when strength of schedule is analyzed.
LSU is the best team FSU played this year.
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Why is Michigan the only team allowed to win with a good defense and a 1960s offense? Or allowed to try, I guess. They got fricking pantsed by TCU and the Fighting Max Dugans in the playoffs last year. Will likely get embarrassed even worse against Bama in a month. That offense can’t score against Bama’s D.
Oh, now bringing up previous years is cool? Looks like Texas should have been left out for UGA then.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:31 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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They also expected Georgia to beat BAMA
So they were wrong again.
Literally talking out of both sides of your mouth now, but this is expected from an entitled fan base.
Why else keep BAMA as the 8th seed and behind Oregon at 6. Seeing is believing for a number of Playoff polls.
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Texas wasn't going until BAMA beat Georgia.
Now, be honest with everyone… why was that happening to Texas? Lol
Someone was getting sacrificed for FSU but it certainly wasn't a BAMA team that just beat undefeated and ranked number 1 Georgia going for their 30 straight win. And not coming out of the BEST conference. That was the bigger hold card in the deck and BAMA raised the ante in Atlanta.
Texas was toast until BAMA flexed in the SECCG.
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:32 am to LNCHBOX
The committee didn’t use body of work, they literally said they picked Bama over FSU due to current team roster and who they think would win
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:32 am to Teufelhunden
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But if we're using that logic, does anyone really believe Washington, or Texas for that matter, is better than Georgia?
Yes
UGA this year was not nearly as good as previous years. Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:33 am to Eighteen
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The committee didn’t use body of work
Didn't realize you were on the committee.
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