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Posted on 6/7/12 at 6:37 pm to
Posted by dunkelman
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Posted on 6/7/12 at 6:37 pm to
I think Mac was one of the best doubles players ever. Maybe Tony Roach was better. He was winning everything with John Fleming, who could serve and then had nothing else that was world class.
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 6/7/12 at 8:16 pm to
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Imagine watching a match from the Goodyear blimp. The line of flight of the ball is the line from where the ball leaves the opponent's racket to where it will bounce the second time. Wherever you are on the court, the shortest distance to get to that shot is by taking a line of movement that is perpendicular the the line of flight of that shot (I.e. approaching the line of that shot by taking a right angle to it). This is a fairly advanced thing to do as it will require hitting a lot of shots while the ball is on the rise. Players like Federer, Agassi, and Jack Kramer all do/did this exceptionally well. By traveling shorter distances, movement is made more efficient. A player like Nadal deviates from this rule of geometry, but overcomes the resulting problem with amazing quickness. You can see quite easily, how much more movement is required by his technique. This is one of the reason that there has been speculation that his body won't hold up whereas, Agassi was able to win a major after his 30th birthday and Fed is still in the hunt for them.


I thought that's what you might be getting at. I've never consciously thought about it this way.
Posted by dunkelman
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Posted on 6/7/12 at 8:22 pm to
When you're 50 you'll be glad I told you about this. If you re stood mover, you were probably doing this intuitively anyway. As you get older, being conscious of this can help you when father time, that cock sucker, won't.
Posted by dunkelman
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Posted on 6/7/12 at 8:23 pm to
I meant a good mover
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 6/7/12 at 8:28 pm to
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I meant a good mover


::knock on wood:: but I still move really well. I can slide around on a hard court like it's clay (a la Djoker). But I'm 32. At some point, my movement will start to decline. That will be a bummer.
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 6:03 am to
So what channel are the matches on today? Gotta program my DVR before I leave for work. Idk if I'm an idiot but it always seems like they make it so damn difficult to find out what channel matches are on. Thanks guys!
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 7:04 am to
Looks like its on the tennis channel right now (Nadal/Ferrer) and then Djoker/Fed are on NBC around lunch time. Probably tape delayed
Posted by Roscoe
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 7:07 am to
So McEnroe just says that Federer can entrench himself as the second best clay court in today's game with a win over Djoker today. What does beating Djoker today have anything to do with that? Fed has already won the French and been runner-up numerous times in his career. He has also beaten Djoker at the French previously. McEnroe didn't say who would lay claim to that hypothetical "second best clay player" (it didn't seem like a "of all time discussion" as that would easily go to Borg), but I don't think Djoker would have any sort of claim to the #2 spot for clay with his first French Open final.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 7:48 am to
Nadal is unamused
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 8:47 am to
The Nadanimal is loose in France.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2997 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 9:37 am to
If Nadal plays Fed tomorrow, he wins in 3 sets.

If he plays Djoker, think its still 3, but 4 is the most it will go.
Posted by bigt41
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:07 am to
i hate nbc's tennis coverage
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:07 am to
Why can't Obama talk faster?

Damn TC said it was going to NBC at 10. I sat throught Obama and now two chicks are on. Where is the Open?
This post was edited on 6/8/12 at 10:10 am
Posted by bigt41
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Damn TC said it was going to NBC at 10. I sat throught Obama and now two chicks are on. Where is the Open?



it doesnt start till 11
Posted by bigt41
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:24 am to
Posted by FootballNostradamus
Member since Nov 2009
20509 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:24 am to
The fact that major tennis is still shown at times on tape delay makes me want to take a spiked bat to the head of network execs. This isn't fvcking the 70s you clowns. We have a thing called internet. Show the damn thing live.
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:29 am to
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it doesnt start till 11

Why the hell not? TC was showing them warming up 30 minutes ago.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2997 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:36 am to
If you live on the east coast, then it looks like you got it live. If you live somewhere else, then it comes on at 11 AM wherever you live after NBC's morning programming finishes.

Been following it online. Looks like Federer went up a break early, but then Djoker broke right back and now has two break points/set points as Fed is serving down 4-5.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2997 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:37 am to
And Djoker takes the first set 6-4
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2997 posts
Posted on 6/8/12 at 10:48 am to
Federer got the early break to start the second set and, surprisingly, was able to consolidate the break to go up 2-0. I'm sure Djoker will break Federer back once or twice shortly.
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