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re: Now that USCw has lost, media will just find a new overrated anti-SEC darling

Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:18 am to
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62187 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:18 am to
We absolutely dominated 11 teams on an SEC schedule. You people act like this didn't happen.

We had the best D in the country. You act like this didn't happen.

Our only loss was in the closest possible game I've ever seen, a touchdown-less overtime game to the nations only undefeated, undisputed #1 team.



But no, we only got in because of REC
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62187 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:19 am to
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Ice Cold
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I happen to agree with genro on this one. He's more correct than he is wrong.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:19 am to
Alabama didn't get in because of media bias- it helped, but that's not the reason.

Alabama got in because Choklahoma St lost to Iowa frickin' State.

Let me say that again.

Iowa frickin' State.

Oregon was the next choice, but then they lost to USC.

So, realistically, you had 3 choices of teams who may not get completely arse-blasted by LSU.

A team who lost to them earlier in the season 6-9, but at home.

A team who lost to them in the first game of the season at a neutral site, but had a second loss.

A team who had one loss and had not played LSU yet, but that one loss was Iowa frickin' State.

I agree, it was lame as hell, a boring game and proved nothing. But your issue is not with the media, its with the other teams not getting their business taken care of.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36899 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:20 am to
no one says it was the only reason...but you being a media darling helped you get a rematch

you have even admitted that yourself twice

which as I said before, I would be happy to be a media darling so I dont know why you are so upset about it
Posted by ViaCavour
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2012
3296 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:20 am to
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Our only loss was in the closest possible game I've ever seen


Maryland beat william and mary 7-6 this season.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62187 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:21 am to
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I would be happy to be a media darling
You are.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36899 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:21 am to
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Alabama didn't get in because of media bias- it helped, but that's not the reason.



yes, its not the only reason, but it did help

therefore an Alabama fan starting a thread about "media darlings" deserves to get called out because Bama benefits from it just as much as the teams he is describing in his OP
Posted by ViaCavour
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2012
3296 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:22 am to
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Tiguar


So like I asked earlier, if it was Mississippi state at the end of the season in the same spot as Alabama was, would MSU get the rematch over Oklahoma State?
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:22 am to
Don't blame Bama for Okie St (and Bozo's kicker) wetting the bed.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62187 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:24 am to
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Bama benefits from it just as much as the teams he is describing in his OP
This thread was supposed to be about anti-SEC, overrated NON-SEC teams.

The media is clamoring for this

Hence, things like this






Your theories about Bama have absolutely nothing to do with this thread. Don't you get that?
Posted by ViaCavour
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2012
3296 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:26 am to
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Your theories about Bama have absolutely nothing to do with this thread. Don't you get that?


They are doing that because they got burned with shitty ratings in the ncg. They are singing a very different tune then they were last season.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:26 am to
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This thread was supposed to be about anti-SEC, overrated NON-SEC teams.


I think it's too late for that bro. This thread got derailed early and instead of keeping it on topic, you helped the detractors run with it by trying to fight them off.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60715 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:27 am to
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Then, Bama proved the voters right


This is bad argument. I know you think its your trump card, but its 20/20 hind sight.

The bottom line is Alabama beat a grand total of 3 teams with a winning record in the regular season last year: 10-2 Arkansas, 9-3 Penn St, 7-5 Auburn. That's the fewest amount of winning teams beaten by any team to make the BCS CG. They did not win their conference. They lost the biggest game of the regular season at home.

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None of the know you reasons Bama was voted in. You're lying or simply bigoted if you say you do


You are delusional if you think name brand didn't make a difference.

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But we all know that Bama deserved to be there.

Hence, 21-0


No, they did not, the results prove nothing but that they won that game.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62187 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:29 am to
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This thread got derailed early and instead of keeping it on topic, you helped the detractors run with it by trying to fight them off.
Agreed, that was my fatal mistake. I should've never started arguing back.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60715 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:31 am to
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Let me say that again.

Iowa frickin' State.


This is another absolutely stupid point. For starters its a name brand issue. Iowa St is traditionally one of the worst teams, so any one that loses to them is automatically DQ'ed. But basically what you are saying is the NC should be determined not based on what teams accomplished like : Winning a BCS Conference and beating 7 vs 3 winning teams. Nope, lets base it on quality of loss, that's brilliant.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36899 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:34 am to
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Your theories about Bama have absolutely nothing to do with this thread. Don't you get that?



well I have just been proving the point that Bama is a media darling since thats what the last 11 pages have been about

if we are talking about anti-SEC team, then yes the Florida State and Oklahomas of the world will now get their time to shine before they lose to either Bama or LSU in the title game
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62187 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:35 am to
LSU is also a media darling.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:36 am to
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You are delusional if you think name brand didn't make a difference.


Well, in all fairness here, it wasn't prestigious Alabama against some mid-major non-AQ staring a bunch of nobodies. Okie St plays in a BCS conference, had a Heisman front runner, 2011 Bilitnikoff winner at wideout and were hanging tons of points on their opposition.

They had plenty of media hype of their own.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36899 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:37 am to
Iowa State is a Big 12 team (a bad one, yes), but I think a lot of people dont even realize that and think of them as like as in some shitty non-BCS conference

but you are correct, its definitely a name-brand issue

before the NC, Bama's best resume builder was almost beating LSU at home (or "beating themselves" )

Their wins resume (again, prior to BCS) was really bad

I think Alabama definitely had a case, but their media perception, past, and hype definitely helped get them in...Genro has even admitted this
This post was edited on 9/16/12 at 10:40 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60715 posts
Posted on 9/16/12 at 10:43 am to
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You weren't whining about Nebraska in '01
You weren't whining about OU in '03


You right i wasn't "whining" about that and I'm not "whining" when I make the same arguments about Alabama not belonging in the game that I made before the 2011 CG was played.

I did however say that 01 Nebraska and 03 OU did not belong in the BCS CG. And you will note that after both of those seasons the BCS formula was changed. To avoid a similar problem. Nebraska was ranked 4th in the traditional polls. They would not have made it under the current formula.

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You are only whining because you had to play the one team that was possibly better than you, then they proved that they were


A team we had already beaten. Why doesn't our win prove we were better? Because the score was close? Because you missed FG's? WE had to beat Alabama twice, Alabama only had to beat LSU once to win the title.

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You wanted an NC despite not being the best team


LSU was 13-0, won the SEC, beat 7 teams with a winning record, including 4 that won 10 games, Alabama by contrast beat 3 winning teams, only 1 with 10 wins. I have long stated that I prefer the regular season to matter. When you can skate by on reputation and being in a certain conference, (never mind that we don't play every team in the conference each year) not even win that conference. Beat basically 1 really good team and get voted into the CG v a team that already beat you and played a much better schedule, that diminishes the regular season.

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You are actually that terrible of fans. Just awful and sad and pathetic. Worst fricking fanbase ever.


A Bama fan talking about other teams getting media bias is bad enough, but calling out other fan bases is really rich
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