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re: NFL Referees Association has a message for the MSB
Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:47 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:47 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I bet if this were measurable, this would be false.
It is measurable and it is 100% correct.
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One thing we definitely know, is you are part of the problem. You’re doing exactly what is wrong with officiating; you’re carrying their water at all costs independent of performance.
Tell me more about this. Carrying their water? By asking for opinions on how officiating can be improved?
I'm part of the solution. The problem is the know it all fanboys (like you perhaps) who go after the new guys in youth games in their first and second years and run them off before they ever even get a chance to develop.
I put my money where my mouth is. You run your mouth on the internet.
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Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:48 pm to 62zip
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Unless it has changed, you're not even eligible for a Super Bowl assignment until your sixth season.
That sounds right.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:50 pm to 62zip
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The problem is the know it all fanboys (like you perhaps)
I gave real, reasonable practical solutions, you’re just butthurt
Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:50 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
C'mon Mingo you're better than this. I'd expect this from 87 but not you.
62 is right. Too many people on the Internet think they know it all when it comes to officiating when they don't have the slightest clue. Can it improve? Absolutely. There's always room for improvement. But to say that officiating as a profession is inept ain't the way to advance dialogue.
62 is also right that attitudes like 87's(and hopefully not yours) is why we can't attract new officials with any regularity.
62 is right. Too many people on the Internet think they know it all when it comes to officiating when they don't have the slightest clue. Can it improve? Absolutely. There's always room for improvement. But to say that officiating as a profession is inept ain't the way to advance dialogue.
62 is also right that attitudes like 87's(and hopefully not yours) is why we can't attract new officials with any regularity.
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:56 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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I gave real, reasonable practical solutions, you’re just butthurt
"Rotate them" yes brilliant.
Get back to us when you figure out why the calls in the South Carolina game were correct.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 7:57 pm to 62zip
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"Rotate them" yes brilliant.
That’s not what I said
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:02 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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There's always room for improvement. But to say that officiating as a profession is inept ain't the way to advance dialogue.
Either inept or cheaters - not really sure where you go with either of those.
Most of the fanboys don't have the first clue, like when he was questioning the integrity of the S.E.C. for supporting two correct calls in the L.S.U. v. S. Carolina game. I guess he thinks the conferences should throw their crew under the bus even when they're right in order to placate fanboys who have no idea what they're talking about.
Far too many people rely on what they see on Sunday to determine whether calls on Saturday or correct or vice versa and from Saturday and Sunday for what they see on Friday.
We also have far too many fanboys who rely on announcers for rules knowledge, and then here we are.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:04 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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That’s not what I said
You're right, my apologies. It was the other fanboy.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:07 pm to 62zip
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I guess he thinks the conferences should throw their crew under the bus
Holding people accountable isn’t throwing them under the bus. That same crew did an LSU game later in the year (I can’t recall the opponent) that had like a dozen reviews on easy calls. They missed the original call so they had to go to the replay, which took forever, to correct them. It totally destroyed the pace of the game. A total disgrace, and that crew was had all year.
I don’t bitch about the officiating in more games than I do, but the bad ones are really bad. And it’s the same crews over and over again and they get their water carried. As I said, I don’t know that they have to get better, just acknowledge when you are bad. Literally everyone else in the sport has to
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:07 pm to 62zip
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We also have far too many fanboys who rely on announcers for rules knowledge, and then here we are.
That's a big issue
Most announcers are completely clueless of the rules.
Matter of fact, if I had my way, all media would be required to take the same rules and mechanics test that we are required to take on a yearly basis. And attend an on-field training.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:09 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Most announcers are completely clueless of the rules.
This is true and also a disgrace. They tried to fix this with bringing in old officials, but they provide absolutely nothing of value, they’ll never disagree with their buddies. Which I understand, but that doesn’t make it right
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:09 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Holding people accountable isn’t throwing them under the bus
They are held accountable weekly, just not for public consumption. Graded. Critiqued. Criticized.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:10 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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There's always room for improvemen
The other thing these clowns don't get is that if you want to see officials get savaged, watch a game with other officials - they have nothing on us, the only difference being that we actually know what we're talking about.
It's kinda funny because you know as well as I do that there may be some game that all the fanboys pick a play and jump on it about ineptness or cheating or whatever and we could sit down, watch the same game and find at least half a dozen frick ups by the crew that they wouldn't even have the first clue about.
And so it goes.
This post was edited on 2/5/25 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:11 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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They tried to fix this with bringing in old officials, but they provide absolutely nothing of value, they’ll never disagree with their buddies. Which I understand, but that doesn’t make it right
They'll disagree but also not throw their brothers in stripes under the bus at the same time. I've heard Matt Austin and Steratore do it when it's warranted but they keep it professional.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:13 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Holding people accountable isn’t throwing them under the bus. That same crew did an LSU game later in the year (I can’t recall the opponent) that had like a dozen reviews on easy calls. They missed the original call so they had to go to the replay, which took forever, to correct them. It totally destroyed the pace of the game. A total disgrace, and that crew was had all year.
Which crew was this? I'm impressed that you saw all of their games - well done.
So you're telling me that there was an LSU game this past season that had a dozen plays overturned? That's interesting. I don't recall that.
Now tell me again about those calls in the USC game.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:13 pm to 62zip
This is how I watch a game at all anymore. From an all-22 perspective so to speak.
Some of these yahoos's heads would explode if they tried to watch a game the same we do and we pointed out stuff they'd never dream of seeing b/c they don't have the same perspective
Some of these yahoos's heads would explode if they tried to watch a game the same we do and we pointed out stuff they'd never dream of seeing b/c they don't have the same perspective
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:14 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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They are held accountable weekly
Not to the public, even when we see with our own two eyes they’re bad. And words mean nothing, I believe you, they’re graded weekly, but those grades don’t mean shite if they aren’t actionable and bad officials are bad often.
Like I’ve said the entire thread, mistakes happen, many of them irreversible, that’s part of sports. But the lack of accountability and having to answer for their mistakes is, to fans, whether right or wrong that’s the perception, is nauseating.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:15 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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They'll disagree but also not throw their brothers in stripes under the bus at the same time. I've heard Matt Austin and Steratore do it when it's warranted but they keep it professional.
“Oh I’m not sure, it was close.”
When it absolutely was not close at all
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:15 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
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Most announcers are completely clueless of the rules.
Yet that is where most of the fanboys get their rules knowledge.
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Matter of fact, if I had my way, all media would be required to take the same rules and mechanics test that we are required to take on a yearly basis. And attend an on-field training.
There was a guy who used to broadcast games in BR and used to savage us all the time.
Finally our RCO contacted him and asked him to take the LHSAA rules test. He told our RCO to frick off.
Posted on 2/5/25 at 8:18 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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This is true and also a disgrace. They tried to fix this with bringing in old officials, but they provide absolutely nothing of value, they’ll never disagree with their buddies. Which I understand, but that doesn’t make it right
You must not watch many games with these guys then. Bill Lemonnier, Matt Austin, Gene Steratore and Terry McAulay all point out misses all the time.
I enjoy when the guy supports a call, cites the rule and then the announcers want to argue with them.
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