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re: NFL OT rule proposal that I never get a straight answer why not awesome

Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:27 pm to
I'd be fine with having the same overtime as college football, only starting from the 50 instead of the 25.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:31 pm to
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No, your idea just gives the advantage to the team that loses a coin toss

Since the vast majority of games don't go to OT, this isn't the case.

52% of pregame toss-winners win the game.
60% of overtime toss-winners win the game.

Since the vast majority of games don't go into overtime, my plan very slightly reduces the advantage of winning the pregame toss.
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:32 pm to
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No functional difference if you just add time. There has to be something built into the game to break the tie or we're not getting anywhere.


Jesus Christ, I didn't think your original idea was all that bad but you just keep defending it with dumber points making me think it was actually a terrible idea to begin with.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:35 pm to
bump
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:35 pm to
Dude, whoever gets the ball first in OT has the advantage. It doesn't matter if you remove the coin toss or change it to a rock, paper, scissors contest.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:47 pm to
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Dude, whoever gets the ball first in OT has the advantage. It doesn't matter if you remove the coin toss or change it to a rock, paper, scissors contest.
Precisely why my plan removes the whole mess and lets the 60 minutes of regulation football, and not an outside object inserted into the game already in progress, decide this part of the game.

If the concern is that the coin toss grants too much of an advantage to a random team, my plan has objectively assuaged that concern. The given problem has been reduced. Know you of a different problem that arises?
Posted by Cap Crunch
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:52 pm to
Explain how the opening coin toss isn't an outside object.

If you want to argue that teams would know the scenario going into OT, fine. But the coin toss is still luck and still determines who gets the advantage in OT.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 10:56 pm to
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Explain how the opening coin toss isn't an outside object.

It isn't. That's why my plan removes it from the overtime proceedings and keeps in the pregame. Once the game starts, no outside object.
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If you want to argue that teams would know the scenario going into OT, fine. But the coin toss is still luck and still determines who gets the advantage in OT.
Of course it does, but the overall advantage of the coin is diminished by keeps it in the pregame. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? If it's a bad thing, why?
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 10:57 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:37 pm to
Are you still peddling this stupid arse idea?

For frick's sake son take the hint that this is dumb as hell.

Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:46 pm to
The coin toss at the beginning of the game exists because there isn't really an advantage (outside of psychological fake shite or flukey weather reversals) to winning it. Both teams will defend a side of the field and both teams will get the ball once. It is a literal coin toss.

In your scenario, every coin toss now matters, which is the exact opposite of the purpose of the coin toss.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:04 am to
troll
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:12 am to
So that's your second response with the exact same wording.

Let's take a look at how you thought this whole thread would play out.

First you'd make a case for something fricking retarded and then when people made their counter posts you thought you could try to use your 10th grade intellect to belittle and mock them just like all of your threads, right?

Secondly you figured no one would call you out on your idiocy because you're a liberal from the Northeast who thinks they are better than everyone else. Right?

Well I'm here to shite all over your Goddamn parade and will continue to point out how fricking stupid you are on a nightly basis. Good luck moving forward friend. I promise you you aren't going to like being a member of this site for the next few weeks.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:19 am to
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The coin toss at the beginning of the game exists because there isn't really an advantage
Historically--and this holds up by the decade--the coin toss winner wins 52% of the time, so there is an advantage.
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In your scenario, every coin toss now matters, which is the exact opposite of the purpose of the coin toss.
But every coin toss has always mattered, and my way makes the coin toss matter less since it lessens that 52% advantage. I understand what you're saying, but the math refutes it.

What about this?: no coins. Consider the following:

- Pregame coin toss winners win 52% of the time.
- Overtime coin toss winners win ~60% of the time.
- Home field advantage in 2016 was 58%, and I assue something close to that holds up throughout history.

What if the team captains and referee meet before the game, and instead of a coin toss, there is simply a declaration of intention made by the visiting team's captain as to whether they'll kick, receive, defer, or defend. This stacks the 52% coin toss advantage against the 58% home field advantage and theoretically reduces home field advantage to ~56%. Since less than 5% of games go to overtime, overall the ~60% advantage thus taken by the visiting team is negligible. For the Super Bowl, simply grant this privilege to the team with the better record and/or tie-breaker winner.

Hey, if you don't like it, no problem. But if the problem is that the randomness of the flip of the coin has too much influence over the outcome of the game, it cannot be denied that this plan reduces that effect.

So what's bad about this?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:19 am to
Do you have an answer to the question of the OP, or are you just here to troll?

I mathematically proved you wrong. GFY.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83162 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:22 am to
No. You didn't.

You haven't proven one single fricking thing that supports your stupid arse argument.

When you do please post it here so we can all laugh at it.

ETA: Your hubris brought this on. You think you can use big words on this site because you assume no one knows what they mean and I'm going to be your constant reminder that you aren't nearly as smart as you think you are son. When you get tired of me fricking you up across multiple boards you'd be wise to remember that.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 12:29 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:25 am to
Could you please stop responding to me?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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83162 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:31 am to
Check my edit little man.

You might as well quit this site if you can't handle being called out on your bullshite.

I've made demoralizing you my personal project. I typically only do that to LSU fans, but you've moved to the top of my list.

Good luck.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:32 am to
Please stop. You've posted eight times in this thread and have contributed nothing but namecalling and trolling. I'd appreciate it if you would just stop. Thanks.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83162 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:46 am to
No snowflake, I won't.

As I have said twice now I'm tired of reading your incessant bullshite across multiple boards where you attempt to use big words to belittle other members of this site.

You are a piece of shite coward who brought this on to himself. You don't like it? Maybe you shouldn't have been a fricking prick for so long.

But back to the topic of this thread, your idea is fricking stupid and you know it.

You'd be better off accepting the inevitable demoralization and just quit posting than begging me to stop responding. That's fricking pathetic.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 12:51 am to
Please stop. Thanks.
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