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re: NBA Playoff First Round Predictions
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:51 am to shel311
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:51 am to shel311
quote:
Well, if you think Harden is as good as last year's Curry, 2006 Wade, and Lebron the 2 years he won the title, then yes I've lost this argument.
That is a retarded argument to begin with. You're acting like those guys were not on really good teams.
I will say that all of those guys were better than Harden. Curry and Wade slightly, Lebron (12-13) much better, but he was better than anyone not named Jordan during that stretch. Saying you had to be that good to be the best player on a team to win a title is just really desperate on your part to win this shitty argument.
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Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:51 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Harden was waaaaaaaaaaaaay more efficient on offense. LeBron averaged 2.4 more points because he was chucking shots like crazy (and missing).
6 games>5 games. I can't believe we are actually discussing this. Harden would have got swept with ease if him and LeBron traded places in that series. Come on man.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:52 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
MSB is rockets talk go to pels talk if you wanna talk about them
Why TF would I want to talk about that crappy team? I'm here to talk NBA not 2 garbage teams
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:53 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Not debatable.
It really isn't, you haven't bought anything to the table to refute LeBron clearly being the better offensive player.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:53 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:#2 seed in a loaded Western Conference last season. High expectations this season...no HOU fans or anyone was telling me how piss poor this team was right before this season tipped off, were they?
That is a retarded argument to begin with. You're acting like those guys were not on really good teams.
quote:So give me the precedent. Give me the guy not on their level playing the ball dominant style they play(Curry isn't ball dominant like Bron/Wade title years) that won titles. That's all I'm asking you to do, show me the guys who have done it.
Saying you had to be that good to be the best player on a team to win a title is just really desperate on your part to win this shitty argument.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:55 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:Once again, someone else changing the parameters of the argument once they've been proven wrong. This whole time we have been talking about offensive ability. Now you are changing the perimeters to talk about number of games, games won, trading places, etc.
6 games>5 games. I can't believe we are actually discussing this. Harden would have got swept with ease if him and LeBron traded places in that series. Come on man.
You were wrong, we can move on now.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:56 am to 13SaintTiger
OWS
OBPM
TS%
Ft rate
Ft%
3pt%
Ppg
And on. And on. And on.
OBPM
TS%
Ft rate
Ft%
3pt%
Ppg
And on. And on. And on.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:57 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:I never changed em, they've been exactly the same from my 1st post on it today.
Once again, someone else changing the parameters of the argument once they've been proven wrong
Just saying I changed them more times doesn't make it more true.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 9:58 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:
Once again, someone else changing the parameters of the argument once they've been proven wrong. This whole time we have been talking about offensive ability. Now you are changing the perimeters to talk about number of games, games won, trading places, etc.
You were wrong, we can move on now.
Oh, I changed the parameters?? You started talking about efficiency like they both had equal share of responsibility. Furthermore you just glided over the assists and rebound stats. What a joke.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:01 am to Boomshockalocka
Lol ft rate? So a player can control a ref's whistle?
LBJ ppg>>Harden ppg
LBJ asts>>Harden asts
Harden TO>>LBJ TO%
The rest of your shite does not matter, except maybe 3pt% but it's still skewed by how much LBJ was forced to do as opposed to Harden who isn't nearly as good as getting his teammates involved.
LBJ ppg>>Harden ppg
LBJ asts>>Harden asts
Harden TO>>LBJ TO%
The rest of your shite does not matter, except maybe 3pt% but it's still skewed by how much LBJ was forced to do as opposed to Harden who isn't nearly as good as getting his teammates involved.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:02 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:
Curry's team won 67 games and he wasn't even the best player on his team in the finals last year
This can't be real life.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:02 am to 13SaintTiger
Yea the ability to draw fouls and get to the ft line. It's one of the four factors. Ever hear of them?
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:04 am to 13SaintTiger
'The rest of the shite' complies everything and puts it into one nice number so it is easily more relevant than raw numbers like points.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:05 am to c on z
quote:
This can't be real life.
Did the Warriors not win that many games? Did Iggy not get MVP of the Finals?
Context is key here. I have been saying all year that he's the best player in the league. I said it before the season started....but Shel mentioned him as a guy who "carried" his team, which is ridiculous. They are a GREAT team. He's no doubt the biggest reason why, but he didn't carry them to the finals. He had help, lots of it.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:11 am to Boomshockalocka
[quote]Yea the ability to draw fouls and get to the ft line[/quote
Drawing a foul and getting the foul call are 2 completely different things. I'm sorry your little brain can't comprehend this.
Drawing a foul and getting the foul call are 2 completely different things. I'm sorry your little brain can't comprehend this.
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:13 am to 13SaintTiger
You ain't even worth arguing with but you seem like easy money on a bet. How many games is HOU gonna win in this GSW series?
This post was edited on 4/15/16 at 10:13 am
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:20 am to Boomshockalocka
$100 that they don't win more than 1 game
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:28 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:I'll admit that I could be wrong and have said "carried" in a different post, but multiple times I've said "led" his team. Curry 100% led his team, which is not only not ridiculous, but I don't think a single person would disagree.
but Shel mentioned him as a guy who "carried" his team, which is ridiculous
quote:And further to my point, it was offensive style of play, so it was kind of specific to offense. So in that regard, no Iggy was not as good offensively as Curry in the series.
Did the Warriors not win that many games? Did Iggy not get MVP of the Finals?
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:31 am to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 4/15/16 at 10:35 am to shel311
No you credited morey and he has nothing to do with it. It was the players. Not the management.
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