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re: NBA Free Agency Thread - Russell Westbrook traded to the Rockets for Chris Paul & picks

Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:04 am to
Posted by Mr Perfect
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:04 am to
Mo is a 22 yr old first Rd draft pick. as a stretch big man, in a lg which is currently putting a lot of emphasis on stretch bigs, he is valuable to many teams. if you don't watch the game. do not comment
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:05 am to
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he is valuable to many teams


Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:20 am to
Draft picks and rookies are like cars, they lose a ton of value once you drive them off the lot. I’m sure some teams would take a flier on Mo, but let’s not act like people are falling over themselves to get in line to trade for a stretch big that shot 28% from 3 last year.

What other assets do the LAL have to move those guys? If it is so well known that the LAL won’t move those contracts unless they already have a handshake deal with a top FA, why would any team want to help them out? At the very least, it sounds like the Lakers will, once again, be negotiating with zero leverage.
Posted by Mr Perfect
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:25 am to
then you throw in Kuzma etc most teams FO are not full of Petty arse baby backs and will do all they can to improve their team over "sticking it to the lake show"

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:26 am to
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Mo is a 22 yr old first Rd draft pick. as a stretch big man, in a lg which is currently putting a lot of emphasis on stretch bigs, he is valuable to many teams. if you don't watch the game. do not comment


Shoots 29% from long distance with an efg of 48%. Only took 77 3s all year and missed 55 of them. He's a 12th man DNP guy on a shite team.

No one's wants Hitler's favorite composer.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:30 am to
those numbers are fine for his age and size. at his size combo while being comfortable with taking the outside shot, he is the prototype many teams will take a cheap chance on.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 7:32 am
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:43 am to
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Kuzma etc


I’m specifically asking about the “etc.” The Lakers giving away every 2nd pick till 2025 too? They can’t attach a first on anyone. If they do get a 3rd guy, where do you think those 2nds will fall? 50+? Those have no value. So now you have to hope attaching Kuz is enough to move every other contract you need to get rid of.

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most teams FO are not full of Petty arse baby backs


True, but your trade partners are very limited, as playoff teams, West teams, and some small market teams don’t want to help the Lakers.

Will they be able to dump what they need to get to max space? I’d say that is a pretty safe bet since teams have always been able to pull off crazy stuff to get to max cap. It just sounds like you think it will be really easy to get there. You’re not bidding in a free market here. Whatever dump trade you make will really really hurt. I hope you realize that.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:46 am to
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Whatever dump trade you make will really really hurt. I hope you realize that.


dude. we already know. that's why we are keeping those guys until we get a 100% verbal.
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:52 am to
Cool, just making sure you understand the concept of leverage this time, because the last Lakers trade, you were proclaiming that the LAL had all the leverage, just to waffle later. Wanted to get all the cards on the table and opinions on record early
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 7:56 am to
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Shoots 29% from long distance with an efg of 48%


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those numbers are fine for his age and size.


Always starting my day with a laugh. Thanks bro.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:02 am to
you expose yourself so much and don't even realize..lmao

Marc gasol didn't even consistently shoot 3s until his 5th or 6th yr in the lg

he made over 40% from there last szn
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1880 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:07 am to
You are so right, because Mo Wagner is widely considered the next Marc Gasol. Glad you reminded everyone.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:07 am to
Mo = Marc Gasol 100 fr dude im not stoopid i watch YouTube film studies
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25887 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:08 am to
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Marc gasol didn't even consistently shoot 3s until his 5th or 6th yr in the lg


What the frick does that have to do with anything? Marc played in the league when big man 3pt shooters weren't needed. Shot less than .2 per game until his 8th year when the league started changing. Dude was DPOTY caliber with a much more complete game than your boy Mo before he even decided he was going to start shooting 3s.

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you expose yourself so much and don't even realize..lmao


Lmao we about to add you to the ignore list bro
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:10 am to
neat attempt at hyperbole and deflection dude

no one ever said that. all that was said is those numbers are fine for his age/size and can clearly be improved upon.

only pels fans manage to shite on first Rd draft picks for cheap lol
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:17 am to
You are the one that brought Gasol up, you made the comparison. No one can figure out why you picked him out of any other bigs, but you did.

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shite on first Rd draft picks for cheap


Again, it’s the car off the lot theory. Do me a favor and go look at last years draft and tell me how many of those guys increased their value after their rookie year and how many decreased. Better yet, go look at this years draft and tell me which players picked between 25-35 the LAL could swap Mo for straight up. We are just trying to tell you: You are overvaluing your players and overplaying your hand
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:17 am to
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only pels fans manage to shite on first Rd draft picks for cheap lol


Only Laker fans compare their players to guys with completely different skill sets
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:19 am to
I never made any comparison

I gave an example of a big improving his shot over time
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:21 am to
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Only Laker fans compare their players to guys with completely different skill sets


Isnt he also diehard Pels fan?
Dude needs to be on the ignore list fr 100
Posted by Baron
Member since Dec 2014
1880 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 8:22 am to
Well his numbers, age, and size compare much better with Robert Swift than Gasol. But you didn’t pick him
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