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Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:01 pm to FightinTigersDammit
I don’t think he actually got to start finish line without a push. Think he crossed after the yellow.
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Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:03 pm to carhartt
The cautions at the end of the stages are put in only to improve the fan experience. Forcing the cars together for a restart automatically creates the action to ensure increased fun in the racing. The forced cautions at the stage breaks creates commercial breaks when racing isn't happening, as they are able to show you the pit stop. It does change the "purity" of racing but its only to make a more "fan friendly" product. I like the stage breaks, personally
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:04 pm to heatwave
I guess he’s back out running so that makes my question obsolete
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:04 pm to heatwave
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Forcing the cars together for a restart
Usually results in more cautions.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:04 pm to heatwave
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improve the fan experience
It may just be me, but it seems like pretty much everything they've done to improve the fan experience actually does the exact opposite.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:07 pm to FightinTigersDammit
The increased risk of cautions come because of the increased competition in the racing, the door to door racing that the fans want to see. NASCAR is wanting to increase the excitement and it's working in my opinion. The fanned out caution free racing is the slower paced action that NASCAR is doing their best to eliminate
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:09 pm to heatwave
Restarts tend to breed crashes and cautions.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:12 pm to SSpaniel
I would disagree. They are pushing hard to get fans access to gambling, they are quick to make changes to the product when they get things wrong in their estimation (think about the group qualifying and about the change to the spoilers this year at the 1 mile and under tracks), the stage racing creates more checkered flags and intensifies the racing throughout the course of the race, they have an insane amount of fan engagement at the track between the drivers and fans (there is a pre-race video from last year with Kurt Busch that shows how much pre-race B.S. he has to do with the fans that is unparalleled in sports, i mean nothing comes remotely close to this type of fan experience). Thats just a few off the top of my head of improved fan experience. What are some of the negatives that you can think of?
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:14 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Restarts tend to breed crashes and cautions.
i feel like we may be in a terminator time loop
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:27 pm to heatwave
Let's put it this way: when cars are strung out, you have one- or Two-car wrecks. When cars are bunched together, you have multi-car wrecks, aka "the big one". I don't tune in to watch guys clean parts off the track.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:28 pm to heatwave
The artificial close racing that is manufactured by NASCAR cheapens the competition. Manufactured close racing is not exciting.
NASCAR was built on letting the best car and driver win, then NASCAR execs decided that wasn’t good enough.
NASCAR was built on letting the best car and driver win, then NASCAR execs decided that wasn’t good enough.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:31 pm to FightinTigersDammit
yeah, "the big one" sucks. thats not good for racing or fans, i totally agree. I could be wrong but I think the "big one" still is exclusive to talladega and daytona, and hasnt happened at the 2 milers or 1.5ers even with the increased frequency of restarts.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:39 pm to Cocotheape
i think the fans decided that wasnt good enough. its why there has been a decrease in viewership and race attendance. the manufactured racing has been boosting the tv ratings. I understand that it cheapens the racing, but I don't really mind it. Both football and basketball promote offense because it is what is exciting, this is no different IMO. The best drivers/teams continue to rise to the top, so it's not like it is creating undeserved winners. Just closer races with increased competition throughout.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:57 pm to heatwave
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think the fans decided that wasnt good enough. its why there has been a decrease in viewership and race attendance.
Yeah, the peak ended. It is what it is
I take your point in general, it just all seems like too much to me though. NASCAR has always had some of this with restrictor plates and well timed “debris” cautions.
If they want more action, I think they should run more short tracks, and rovals. Don’t have to worry about competition cautions for either of those.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:09 pm to Cocotheape
i seriously think someone is just combing through these posts and downvoting every single one regardless if its supportive or critical of nascar 
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:13 pm to Cocotheape
the short tracks were a major dud last year, thats why they made a drastic spoiler change this year for all tracks 1 mile and under.
on the road races last year: sonoma was a major dud, watkins glen was exciting but no one passed (if you remember chase just defended truex for what seemed like 20 laps), and the playoff roval race was incredible. But I wouldn't say that road races are a certain fix.
on the road races last year: sonoma was a major dud, watkins glen was exciting but no one passed (if you remember chase just defended truex for what seemed like 20 laps), and the playoff roval race was incredible. But I wouldn't say that road races are a certain fix.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:24 pm to heatwave
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i seriously think someone is just combing through these posts and downvoting every single one regardless if its supportive or critical of nascar
Gays from the soccer board. Ignore them.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:28 pm to FightinTigersDammit
9 and 19 cars looks to be the class of the field.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:30 pm to JCinBAMA
Hendrick cars look strong.
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