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re: Most overrated NFL player ever...Bo or Joe?

Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:04 am to
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:04 am to
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If you dont think not training for football specifically and not being able to run all the plays due to lack of time with the team cut into his efficiency I dont think this conversation is worth having


He's a RB. Take ball, hit hole. He ran for 6.6 YPC in college. How much more was he really supposed to get out of the NFL than his 5.4 YPC?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:04 am to
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but he's revered as an NFL legend, which is where the overrated part comes into play.
No he isnt. He is revered as a guy who played a limited amount of football at an incredibly high level while also being a All star baseball player
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:07 am to
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He's a RB. Take ball, hit hole. He ran for 6.6 YPC in college. How much more was he really supposed to get out of the NFL than his 5.4 YPC?

If Bo played a 12 year NFL only career, assuming no injuries with the production he had even as a dual sport athlete, you are looking at these numbers

15,000 yards and 5.4 YPC


That would be considered one of the best running backs of all time So I am not sure what you are even arguing now
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:09 am to
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No he isnt.


, of course he is. Have you read this thread?

People have taken his Bo Knows campaign + Tecmo Bowl and allowed the cultural impact of Bo Jackson to become bigger than the actual on the field results.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:09 am to
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he's revered as an NFL legend, which is where the overrated part comes into play.


No he isn't. He is revered as one of the greatest athletes of all time with a "what could have been" attitude towards his career stats because of injury and baseball. People do argue he could have been one of the best of all time with a fully dedicated career and no injury. Nobody argues he is an all-time NFL legend based on his career stats.

If you disagree with any of that then you are crazy.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:10 am to
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That would be considered one of the best running backs of all time So I am not sure what you are even arguing now


You could say the same about Jamaal Charles, except his numbers would have been even better.

Alas, multiple knee injuries did him in.

Being able to stay healthy is a big part of whether or not you're a legend.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:11 am to
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People have taken his Bo Knows campaign + Tecmo Bowl and allowed the cultural impact of Bo Jackson to become bigger than the actual on the field results.

Dude, no they havent


Bo is talked about as "one of the best pure athletes of all time that could have been an nfl legend if he focused on football only without injuries"


That is is legacy to the majority of people
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:11 am to
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Nobody argues he is an all-time NFL legend based on his career stats.


Start a thread asking who the best RBs were in NFL history. Report back.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:12 am to
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You could say the same about Jamaal Charles, except his numbers would have been even better
And Jamaal Charles is going to be a first ballot hall of famer......
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 11:12 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:13 am to
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That is is legacy to the majority of people


And that speculation is thrown to the curve when asked who the greatest RBs in were in NFL history.

Gil Brandt has Bo Jackson #4 all time, for example.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:14 am to
You're right.

A guy with 2700 rushing yards in 4 seasons would have definitely averaged 1500 for 8 years straight AND kept the same yard per carry.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:15 am to
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Start a thread asking who the best RBs were in NFL history. Report back
Here you go


Here is a 6 page thread


Only once in the entire thread (page 5) was bo jackson mentioned


And the poster said it was based on talent and not production....



This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 11:18 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:15 am to
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And Jamaal Charles is going to be a first ballot hall of famer......


Is he? Serious question.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:16 am to
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Gil Brandt has Bo Jackson #4 all time, for example.
Thats one human being. Go read your tigerdroppings thread you asked for.........


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:16 am to
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Is he? Serious question.

Yes, serious answer
Posted by tbabino
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:20 am to
as the initiator of this thread, my intent is not to minimize what was ACTUALLY accomplished by these two...everyone agrees on the freakish athleticism of Bo...everyone agrees (I suppose) on the downfield passing ability of Joe.
But the truth is that the legend of them both...IMHO...doesn't measure up to what they actually accomplished in the NFL.
Thanks for playing and pick up your case of Rice-a-Roni on the way out.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:21 am to
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Start a thread asking who the best RBs were in NFL history. Report back
Here is another 5 page thread where Jakson is only mentioned once.....



You are arguing against something that doesnt really exist


LINK
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 11:22 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:29 am to
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Gil Brandt has Bo Jackson #4 all time, for example
Also, did you straight up lie?



Here is Gil Brandts list

LINK

1 Brown
2 sanders
3 payton
4 sayers
5 simpson
6 campbell
7 dickerson
8 dorsett
9 LT
10 Smith

Other running backs considered: Marshall Faulk, Thurman Thomas, Ollie Matson, Marion Motley, Steve Van Buren and George McAfee.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84870 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:33 am to
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Also, did you straight up lie?
LINK

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4. Bo Jackson

L.A. Raiders, 1987-1990
» One Pro Bowl selection
» 2,782 career rushing yards, 16 career rushing touchdowns



Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84870 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 11:34 am to
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Here is another 5 page thread where Jakson is only mentioned once.....


Is Jamaal Charles mentioned in either of the threads?
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