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Most innings pitched in a single World Series?
Posted on 10/30/19 at 11:59 am
Posted on 10/30/19 at 11:59 am
With all the talk about outstanding pitching by WS starters in recent years and the respective aces, I started thinking about some of the greats of past World Series, and wondered if anyone has ever pitched more innings in a single World Series than Mickey Lolich and Bob Gibson in 1968? Each had three starts...each had 3 complete games. 27 innings. Lolich was 3-0, 1.67, and Gibson was 2-1, 1.67. After pitching complete games in Games 2 and 5, on only two days rest, Lolich matched Gibson's complete game with 9 innings of his own for a 4-1 win.
The heavy workload obviously had no effect on Lolich or Gibson...Lolich pitched for ten more years, going over 300 innings four times, with a whopping 376 innings in 1971. Gibson pitched 8 more years. Gibson also pitched 27 innings in 3 CGs in the 1967 WS.
In an era where six innings often counts as a "quality start", I think the numbers those guys put up in those days is often overlooked. With today's five man rotations, the Orioles feat of having four 20 game winners in 1971 likely will never be matched. They had 70 complete games between them. Did they suffer long term arm damage? No...each of the four had several years of success after 1971, with Palmer being the most notable.
The heavy workload obviously had no effect on Lolich or Gibson...Lolich pitched for ten more years, going over 300 innings four times, with a whopping 376 innings in 1971. Gibson pitched 8 more years. Gibson also pitched 27 innings in 3 CGs in the 1967 WS.
In an era where six innings often counts as a "quality start", I think the numbers those guys put up in those days is often overlooked. With today's five man rotations, the Orioles feat of having four 20 game winners in 1971 likely will never be matched. They had 70 complete games between them. Did they suffer long term arm damage? No...each of the four had several years of success after 1971, with Palmer being the most notable.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:10 pm to BamaGradinTn
Christy Mathewson threw three complete game shutouts in the 1905 World Series.
Warren Spahn holds the modern record for innings pitched in a World Series at 28 2/3 in 1958. Two of his three starts went 10 innings. He was 37.
Warren Spahn holds the modern record for innings pitched in a World Series at 28 2/3 in 1958. Two of his three starts went 10 innings. He was 37.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:12 pm to BamaGradinTn
Deacon Phillippe 1903 - 44IP
Bill Dinneen 1903 - 35 IP
Cy Young 1903 - 34 IP
George Mullin 1909 - 32 IP
Christy Mathewson 1912 - 28.2 IP
Warren Spahn 1958 - 28.2 IP
Per baseball reference.
Several at 27
Bill Dinneen 1903 - 35 IP
Cy Young 1903 - 34 IP
George Mullin 1909 - 32 IP
Christy Mathewson 1912 - 28.2 IP
Warren Spahn 1958 - 28.2 IP
Per baseball reference.
Several at 27
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:18 pm to castorinho
quote:
Deacon Phillippe 1903 - 44IP
Bill Dinneen 1903 - 35 IP
Cy Young 1903 - 34 IP
George Mullin 1909 - 32 IP
Christy Mathewson 1912 - 28.2 IP
Warren Spahn 1958 - 28.2 IP
Per baseball reference.
Several at 27
Crazy numbers.
Fewer innings pitched haven't necessarily translated into longer careers for starters.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:22 pm to Speedy G
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Christy Mathewson threw three complete game shutouts in the 1905 World Series.
Hitters used to really suck.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:26 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:they weren’t throwing gas and ratchets then
Fewer innings pitched haven't necessarily translated into longer careers for starters
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:29 pm to slackster
quote:
Hitters used to really suck.
Well, the ball was dead. But, Christy Mathewson was pretty good.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:29 pm to BamaGradinTn
I don’t think pitch counts were even talked about in the 90s.
Dierker would leave in Shane Reynolds, Mike Hampton and Jose Lima until the 8th, and have Billy Wagner close it in the ninth.
Dierker would leave in Shane Reynolds, Mike Hampton and Jose Lima until the 8th, and have Billy Wagner close it in the ninth.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:31 pm to Speedy G
Yeah but some of these pitching numbers are just ridiculous - dead ball or not.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 12:38 pm to BamaGradinTn
I doubt they were throwing 98/99 mph darts in the 7th, 8th, and 9th innings of those games like relievers come in and do now. As great as they were, there’s just no way they could do what they did then in 2019. Their arms would be fine, but they would get lit the frick up.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 1:28 pm to Speedy G
quote:
Christy Mathewson threw three complete game shutouts in the 1905 World Series.
Warren Spahn holds the modern record for innings pitched in a World Series at 28 2/3 in 1958. Two of his three starts went 10 innings. He was 37.
What the poster is trying to say is that today's pitchers are a bunch of pampered candy-asses

Posted on 10/30/19 at 1:30 pm to BamaGradinTn
Why does it feel like Mad Bum threw like 35 innings a few years ago??
Posted on 10/30/19 at 1:36 pm to BamaGradinTn
Seems in my younger years you could always count on the ace of the staff throwing games 1, 4, 7 in World Series play.
Posted on 10/30/19 at 1:37 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Fewer innings pitched haven't necessarily translated into longer careers for starters.
FWIW, Nolan Ryan credits his longevity to throwing a ton of innings over his career.
He's fricking brutal when it comes to today's pitch counts.

ETA: This is a PG version of Ryan's thoughts on the situation: Rangers-ex Nolan Ryan still believes pitch counts are hurting arms
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 1:40 pm
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