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re: MLS owners predict league will surpass MLB

Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:01 am to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:01 am to
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Somebody do a thread about buying tickets to a match in Europe so SCH can do his whole routine for the More Sports Board


Looks like we got a bitter MLS fan who can’t handle the truth
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:02 am to
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We have a great nucleus of young players. Adams, Pulisic, Mckennie, Sargent, Dest, Weah, Reyna and so on.

But go look at the french kids in that age group or the argentines in that age group. As good as our kids are we really don't even sniff the global elite. Mbappe and Dembele are already among the worlds elite and they're in that age group.


It's always relative.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:07 am to
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Looks like we got a bitter MLS fan who can’t handle the truth



whats the routine baw (you're clearly a baw not a bro btw)
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:09 am to
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We have a great nucleus of young players. Adams, Pulisic, Mckennie, Sargent, Dest, Weah, Reyna and so on.

But go look at the french kids in that age group or the argentines in that age group. As good as our kids are we really don't even sniff the global elite. Mbappe and Dembele are already among the worlds elite and they're in that age group.

It won't stop us from competing if we can get the right manager in and actually have a sense of direction. I absolutely think we could make the semis in 2026 if the progressions continue and we catch some breaks. But having that once in a lifetime group of players is a lot different than being a consistent powerhouse. Belgium will find that out in a few years




nail on the head

hey what happened to you boy Wilder
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:11 am to
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Parents keep kids involved in sports post middle school due to one thing and one thing only: college scholarships. Most parents assume their kids need to go to college, and see sports as a way to pay for it. Because there is almost zero chance of their kids going to college on a soccer scholarship, parents aren’t willing to pay for those recources. Why send your kid to some elite soccer camp when they have no chance at a scholy when they could send them to basketball camp and get seen by d-1 recruiters?

The fact that there isn’t the possibility of player development resulting in a free college education is the reason those development opportunities are so few and far between. There’s an entire industry of camps for preparing middle and high school aged athletes for college and major league scouts in baseball, basketball, football, and even hockey up north. If such a pathway existed for soccer, the resources would be there because sending kids to camp is cheaper than tuition.

It’s not that they’re missing the development they would get in college. They’re missing the development TO get TO college.

NO no no

the college system is flawed as frick and does not provide the best way to improve our player pool
you can't compare a 19 year college kid to a 19 full on PRO soccer player
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:12 am to
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10 am fricktard
you're about to be on relevant time again.
east coast can't wait
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:13 am to
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east coast can't wait

eh but you're gonna be in fayetnam that shite is worse than Columbia BAWChacho
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:18 am to
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I said they were slowly starting to take the training wheels off - which they are. Limits on salary, payroll, international players, etc., aren't gone - but they keep getting increased.


franchise system isn't going away and will always hold the league back

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They're getting there. The market currently can't support teams with the kinds of payrolls you're talking about. Give it some time.

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yes it can you have much better owners than the last failed American soccer league. LOL you telling me NYCFC and Atlanta can't support this.....

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They're in place to help the USMNT. For what it's worth, I don't think it's a coincidence that the best USMNT World Cup performance in recent history came during an era where international player limits were low, and that team was dominated by MLS players.



Bc MLS quality players in the national team are not that good. They don't have to actually compete for their place on their club team like they do in Europe. They don't have to worry about getting sent down to a lower division.

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You're the same guy that wants no limit on the number of internationals and no salary cap, right? Are we taking off the training wheels, or not?


You do realize that its down in the champions league and EPL ensuring home grown talent is in match day squads but also letting teams have plenty of international players

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And yet, the level of play keeps increasing. Hmmm...



Is it tho, seeing guys like Rooney, Vela and Ibra come over here is great but watching them embarrass the league shows how long it has to go.

Also doesn't help the league is way to big. Its taking an already small pool of players and diluting it even more by adding more franchises
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69175 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:19 am to
You’re missing the forest for the trees. Players are missing out on development at ages 12-16 because soccer isn’t paying tuition, thus that development isn’t worth the resources for parents to invest in when other sports offer a better roi.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:20 am to
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hey what happened to you boy Wilder



Same thing that happened to your boy AJ, albeit against a superior opponent
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:20 am to
Soccer: America’s next big sport for the last 40 years!
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:25 am to
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Same thing that happened to your boy AJ, albeit against a superior opponent




yea but AJ beat Ruiz in the rematch

Wilder lost 17 or 19 rounds vs Fury

you went ghost that night

Wilder sucks at boxing time to admit it
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:26 am to
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danilo


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Soccer: America’s next big sport for the last 40 years!


The guy named danilo would say this.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:28 am to
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You’re missing the forest for the trees. Players are missing out on development at ages 12-16 because soccer isn’t paying tuition, thus that development isn’t worth the resources for parents to invest in when other sports offer a better roi.




my god no

College not the answer, for the fact its not real fricking soccer and there are limits to how much they can play and practice.

Pay to play is the problem thats why kids 12-16 miss out on development. Soccer is a game for people of every class everywhere else but here.

Saying of yea give them scholarships to college isn't going to fix shite. There needs to be a better network of free youth academies that can filter kids to MLS or overseas academies once they reach a certain age.

Sorry you are extremely wrong here.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 11:29 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:33 am to
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Is it tho

It absolutely is. If you think it's not, then you haven't been watching.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:41 am to
I’ve been watching and going to MLS since the league first started

Depth is still a massive issue and you know it

And making the league bigger isn’t helping that especially when we don’t produce enough quality players domestically and the ones who are good head to Europe the first chance they get

The young South Americans who didn’t get a shot down there use this as a temporary spring board to Europe.

Defending is still awful in this league and watching these guys who are over the hill come over here and tear the league apart shows it’s not even close to this nonsense about it being a top league soon. It’s very entertaining but the quality is still meh.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 11:42 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:42 am to
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Sorry you are extremely wrong here.

No, he's not. Increasing the amount of college scholarships could only help. If nothing else, it would keep more players in the game longer. Give the poorer demographics a goal that they are familiar with when most are unfamiliar with the idea of professional academies. They stay in the game longer, increasing the odds of getting spotted if they have any talent.

The ultimate goal wouldn't be to actually get them to college, although it would be a nice byproduct. It would be a way to increase familiarity, popularity, exposure, and a way to keep people in the game longer.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:47 am to
Would increasing college scholarships take money away from my football or basketball team?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:49 am to
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Depth is still a massive issue and you know it

I've never denied it.
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And making the league bigger isn’t helping that especially when we don’t produce enough quality players domestically and the ones who are good head to Europe the first chance they get

But depth hasn't really gotten worse over the years, and with more teams, they have a greater chance of finding young local players.
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The young South Americans who didn’t get a shot down there use this as a temporary spring board to Europe.


So? They still make the league better every year.
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It’s very entertaining but the quality is still meh.

That has nothing to do with his statement that it continues to improve, which is a fact.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 11:55 am to
The quality has improved but people like you overstate how good the league actually is.
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