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re: McCarthy or Payton which coach has been more successful?
Posted on 8/2/13 at 8:55 am to Sophandros
Posted on 8/2/13 at 8:55 am to Sophandros
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Actually, it's McCarthy who ran a successful bounty program because his team was not scapegoated for it.
Link? Basing this on what?
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don't let facts get in the way
Payton and company ran a bounty program. This is a fact. It doesn't necessarily take away from his success, but it did happen. Everyone outside of Louisiana understands this.
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Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:15 am to TexasTiger1185
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:19 am to Sophandros
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:19 am to TexasTiger1185
Are six links good enough for you?
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:28 am to Sophandros
Anddddd Boom!
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:28 am to Sophandros
No, but 3 posts is, thanks.
I just hadn't seen the story, relax man.
I just hadn't seen the story, relax man.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:31 am to tduecen
Payton's accomplishments are more impressive. Unlike GB, New Orleans had absolutely no culture of success and winning.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:34 am to Sophandros
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Actually, it's McCarthy who ran a successful bounty program because his team was not scapegoated for it.
The Saints staff had plenty of time to stop their program and gave a
to the league and their own owner when told to stop the first time, hard for me to say they were scapegoatedPosted on 8/2/13 at 9:36 am to LL012697
Prove it.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:36 am to LL012697
Prove it.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:37 am to LL012697
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he Saints staff had plenty of time to stop their program and gave a to the league and their own owner when told to stop the first time, hard for me to say they were scapegoated
This.
Anyone that is not a Saints slappy knows this.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:38 am to tduecen
I can't say definitively that one is better or worse than the other. Like you said they've both had stud QBs for their entire tenure. Saints were probably in worse shape when Payton took over, but the Packers weren't contenders when McCarthy got there either.
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 9:38 am
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:40 am to LL012697
Considering the investigation started in early 2010 and the allegations were going through the 2011 season, it's common sense....but I'm not going to derail this thread over this subject, since it isn't the topic
This post was edited on 8/2/13 at 9:42 am
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:47 am to Peazey
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I think that it's about as even as it gets. I tend to think that Payton's offense is more innovative
This....I actually had no idea just how even their resumes are
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:55 am to LL012697
Which totally explains why guys who weren't on the team during that time were suspended.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 9:56 am to tduecen
Clearly it's McCarthy.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 10:11 am to Sophandros
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Which totally explains why guys who weren't on the team during that time were suspended.
And why when pressed to present actual evidence to the bounty program, the NFL reduced all player suspensions and settled immediately.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 10:31 am to Sophandros
Posted on 8/2/13 at 10:49 am to tduecen
I say McCarthy by a hair. He's handicapped by one of the worst GMs in the entire league. Obviously having Rodgers is great, but the rest of the team is average at best.
Posted on 8/2/13 at 10:54 am to PhiTauSMTTT
Payton has never lost a home playoff game.
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