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re: Matt Ryan has actually outplayed Aaron Rodgers lately...

Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:52 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:52 pm to
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Look at the Barnwell article noting those stats. He shows that Rodgers gets an extra gam
Yeah because they had to play the wildcard game. It also happened to be against an 11-5 team with the second lowest team defensive passer rating in the frigid cold. He played great, so it helped his statistics, but like the rest of that time frame, the opponent quality and playing conditions were not his favor to have better statistics.

If one is going to make a statistical comparison, based on a small sample size, then they can't disregard variables that could significantly influence the statistics. In other words, there is a greater value-added to an equal performance when it occurs against a better team (and defense), especially in conditions that would negatively impact that performance.

I'm not sure if conditions can be accounted for (dome vs. Green Bay in January), but you can at least account for the opponent quality.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 10:56 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:00 pm to
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The entire "run the table" Aaron Rodgers thing started week 12,
But he went on his "run" in week 11 when his he had a noticeable improvement that consisted. The TEAM (defense specifically) didn't start it until a week later, but he acknowledges that the "run the table" comment came after week 10 and his streak started then:
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After predicting that his Green Bay Packers could "run the table" following a 4-6 start, Rodgers has elevated his game to heights rarely seen in NFL history.
then he decides to change the time-frame to a week later:
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since the Packers' winning streak began in Week 12.
It makes no sense. If we want to compare the individual statistics during this great run, why would he acknowledge the time frame of the run, then change it to reflect a team statistic?
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 11:05 pm
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 5:58 am to
You do realize that "run the table" was said after the Packers fell to 4-6 in Week 11. Therefore, the winning streak starting at week 12. Everyone is considering the eight game winning streak as this stretch. The articles are consistent.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:02 am to
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Rodgers has a wow factor when he plays. Not so much with Ryan.



Plus, there's no fun in watching a noodle arm throw fricking check downs all day


I think Ryan has around 500 more yards than Rodgers... that's just a result of playing the saints twice
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:11 am to
Matt Ryan "throws checkdowns"

Why he is the best passer on 20+ yard attempts?

Why is he lapping the field in YPA, NYPA, and ANYPA?

Matt Ryan has the second furthest attempted yards per pass in the air this season. Only Cam Newton throws an average attempt further, but he was brutally inefficient.

Hmmm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:31 am to
He's not and you are a liar

Where do you get your stats from?

Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:32 am to
Pro football reference, ESPN leaderboards, and team communications. How are any of those a lie?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:50 am to
Y'all can post all the stats you want , but the bottom line is which O-LINE plays better as to who has the better day....
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 7:53 am to
Here is the air yards per attempt:

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Matt Ryan is second among qualified QB's. My mistake on Cam being first as that was from when I last looked at that data. It is Kirk Cousins now, but all of the facts regarding Ryan are true. Please show me where they are wrong.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:06 am to
And that's largely due the Falcons having one of the best playacton offenses I've ever seen.

You can't dismiss the importance of their running attack or having their offensive line healthy the entire season. They are a complete offense unlike the Packers imo.
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 8:12 am
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:21 am to
Matt Ryan was top five highest yards per attempt ever in NFL history for a season... but ya.. king of the checkdown!
This post was edited on 1/20/17 at 8:23 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:24 am to
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You do realize that "run the table" was said after the Packers fell to 4-6 in Week 11. Therefore, the winning streak starting at week 12. Everyone is considering the eight game winning streak as this stretch. The articles are consistent.
You're correct; I wasn't accounting for the bye week. That being said, his amazing the began the week before so when you already have a limited sample size, getting as much relevant data is essential.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:38 am to





All of y'all bit
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:45 am to
You got those two people so good! Solid troll.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34507 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 8:46 am to
I don't like to take trolling too seriously
Posted by jj06
atlanta..God’s city
Member since Jul 2013
2295 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:19 am to
Lot of salty arse coonasses here on the hater train. I see Louisiana's dick sucking of other teams isn't just regulated to the college game. Will you all celebrate if Green Bay beats Atlanta like yall did when Clemson won a few weeks back?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44754 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:23 am to
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And that's largely due the Falcons having one of the best playacton offenses I've ever seen.

You can't dismiss the importance of their running attack or having their offensive line healthy the entire season. They are a complete offense unlike the Packers imo.


And yet America seems to think that this Packers defense is going to slow them down enough to win this game.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:24 am to
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Will you all celebrate if Green Bay beats Atlanta like yall did when Clemson won a few weeks back?
Will Saints fan celebrate when a division rival loses in the playoffs? Probably.

Are you going to pretend that Falcons fans didn't celebrate when the Saints lost in the Niners in 2012?

Also, who are the "dick suckers" here? Those who think Rodgers is a better QB? Those who think Rodgers had a better streak? Wouldn't the term "dick sucker" be better applied to those that support their guy regardless of the stats?

Thank you for your time.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:24 am to
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And yet America seems to think that this Packers defense is going to slow them down enough to win this game.

How do you figure?
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44754 posts
Posted on 1/20/17 at 11:26 am to
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How do you figure?


65% of the betting is on GB money line.
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