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Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:43 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:And when you completely disappear in the 4th quarter of game 6 and aren't good enough to match Steph Curry in game 7, you mean.
well when Chris Paul plays like Jason Terry and you up against 3 hall of famers in their prime… that’s what happens
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:46 pm to shel311
In order to beat the warriors your second guy needs to play like Kyrie played alongside Bron
Critical Game 5 for Kyrie at GSW. 19/26 40 something points
Critical Game 5 for CP3 at GSW. 3/14, 1/8 in the second half.
That was the difference bubba, harden was better than Steph by a LOT in that series.
35 ppg on 59 TS
V
24 ppg on 54 TS
not close.
Critical Game 5 for Kyrie at GSW. 19/26 40 something points
Critical Game 5 for CP3 at GSW. 3/14, 1/8 in the second half.
That was the difference bubba, harden was better than Steph by a LOT in that series.
35 ppg on 59 TS
V
24 ppg on 54 TS
not close.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:52 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:AND your bet player can't disappear when you have the lead in an elimination game and injury luck on your side, right Boom?
In order to beat the warriors your second guy needs to play like Kyrie played alongside Bron
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:56 pm to shel311
Before that game 6 Steph was averaging about 20 ppg oN 50 TS that series. Obviously if harden played like that GSW Would have easily swept 4-0. Steph could play like trash and his team still wins bc they have so much more talent. It goes without saying it is much more of a task to have to carry your team every night compared to Steph having KD and Klay to carry until you finally got hot for the first time in 6 games.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:59 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Redirecting you for the 57th time, when Harden got the injury luck of KD going down in game 6 and the Rockets had the league, Harden took 2 shots in the 1st 11.5 minutes of the 4th quarter and completely disappeared and choked the series away.
Before that game 6 Steph was averaging about 20 ppg oN 50 TS that series. Obviously if harden played like that GSW Would have easily swept 4-0. Steph could play like trash and his team still wins bc they have so much more talent. It goes without saying it is much more of a task to have to carry your team every night compared to Steph having KD and Klay to carry until you finally got hot for the first time in 6 games.
That happened. You can change the subject 57 more times, I will just redirect you back to those facts 57 times.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:04 pm to shel311
You are harping on a small sample size I am looking at a bigger. All this “matters most” in hindsight stuff is silly. I can assure you when game 3 was being played, that was the most important game of anyone in the courts career at that time. Same for game 4. Same for game 2. Over the whole series one guy was clearly the best player of the series.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:10 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:
You don’t win championships with one guy dribbling the air out of the ball.
It’s like y’all not even reading and understanding the point. Luka’s high usage hasn’t stopped anyone else from getting their numbers.
Luka has this insane usage rate this year, yet Dinwiddie(not a star) is averaging 18 ppg. Wood is averaging 16 ppg in 25 mpg.
I think Luka also gets his guys more open 3’s than anyone in the league. The only player on the Mavs who dribbles the air out of the ball is Dinwiddie.
Luka is constantly looking for mismatches, attacking the paint, working his post and midrange game, looking for open shooters or rollers.
People who think he just dribbles the air out of the ball don’t watch him play.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:14 pm to landrywasbeast30
quote:You keep saying that despite me showing you data that has shown that statement to be false. All of THJ, Brunson, and Dinwiddie put up better numbers playing without Luka so why do you keep saying something incorrect?
Luka’s high usage hasn’t stopped anyone else from getting their numbers.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:15 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:And you're ignoring Hardens injury luck and disappearing act in game 6s 4th quarter.
You are harping on a small sample size
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:18 pm to shel311
As mentioned before you are ignoring it was a GS sweep if not for the play leading up to those cherry picked little teeny sample sizes.
It is very nice when you are Steph and be shite and your team still wins. Not as nice when a bad quarter here or there loses your team the series.
It is very nice when you are Steph and be shite and your team still wins. Not as nice when a bad quarter here or there loses your team the series.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:23 pm to shel311
quote:
YOu keep making strange comparisons. You use Brunson and his 10 or 11 shots per game and 20 Usage rate and thinking that proves if Jaylen Brown came to Dallas, Luka's game wouldn't change despite Jaylen being absolutely nothing like Jalen Brunson, and taking 19 shots per game with 30% usage. 2 entirely different players.
My point, which I’ve stated from the very beginning, is that Luka’s high usage rate hasn’t prevented any of his teammates from playing their game.
Facts don’t support the idea that another star can’t succeed with Luka. Put a star player in Dinwiddie’s spot, SGA for example, and that player would still be great with Luka.
Someone said earlier Trae Young’s usage has actually gone up. Murray still getting his numbers and putting up more shots than he did last year.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:28 pm to shel311
quote:
You keep saying that despite me showing you data that has shown that statement to be false. All of THJ, Brunson, and Dinwiddie put up better numbers playing without Luka so why do you keep saying something incorrect?
Ok guy. You win. No one can play with Luka. KP had his best season with Luka. Hardaway had his two best seasons with Luka. Brunson just got paid. Dinwiddie is having by far the best shooting season of his life. None of those guys are even star players, but no one can play with Luka.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:30 pm to landrywasbeast30
Traes shot attempts are up bc they have another facilitator and run plays for him to score off ball.
Usage only refers to shot attempts or turnovers. It is the last player to touch the ball before either a shot or turnover. An assist lowers usage.
Usage only refers to shot attempts or turnovers. It is the last player to touch the ball before either a shot or turnover. An assist lowers usage.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:31 pm to landrywasbeast30
quote:Is Trae Young succeeding? He's off to an awful start, his shooting numbers have fallen off of a cliff. Your argument has been both players can remain with high usage and succeed, jury is still out on that one for Atlanta. They've accomplished the usage part but have yet to make it work for both players to get their numbers, as you say.
Someone said earlier Trae Young’s usage has actually gone up. Murray still getting his numbers and putting up more shots than he did last year.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:33 pm to landrywasbeast30
quote:Ok guy. You win.
Ok guy. You win.
Luka can team up with Giannis, Harden and Lebron and they could all maintain their usage rate.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:35 pm to Boomshockalocka
Atlanta also had the 2nd best offense in the NBA last season and are bottom half so far this season.
It's just not an example that proves that posters point. It's kinda the opposite.
It's just not an example that proves that posters point. It's kinda the opposite.
Posted on 11/17/22 at 5:40 pm to shel311
Murray ain’t it imo. . 52% career TS makes it impossible ti have an elite offense with a guy that inefficient taking a lot of shots. It is Westbrook like
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:29 pm to Boomshockalocka
You are so fricking pathetic. How is harden doing so far this year????
Posted on 11/18/22 at 12:31 am to dukke v
Damn
A shel v boom with a dukke v/ peej cameo?
Talk about a throwback thread.
See you on P/T. It’s like DeadWood of TD!
A shel v boom with a dukke v/ peej cameo?
Talk about a throwback thread.
See you on P/T. It’s like DeadWood of TD!
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