re: Lol at Iowa being above Notre Dame and Mich St.

Are these two different sources? I realize we're discussing SOS, but that's not how teams are ranked, now is it.

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What is hurting ND are the performances against lesser opponents recently. Struggling to score against Wake and BC doesn't look good.

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Think BK is right about this team needing to finish off their opponents better. They went up 21-0 on Wake and just kind of cruised the rest of the game. Think that is something to do with the young skill position guys on offense, Adams was making his first career start and Kizer was on his 8th.

The BC game was turnover plagued, similar to the Clemson game but Notre Dame is a better team than BC so they were able to still control the game and win.

BC is the #1 ranked team in total defense, add to that playing in Fenway, in a "home" away game, at night, in a rivalry, it's not surprising the game turned out how it did. Everyone keeps saying that "they are Notre Dame they get the benefit of the doubt," but how many other teams have skirted by weaker teams and maintained their rankings, hell OU beat TCU by 1 point after having a 17 point lead, when TCU was without their stud receiver and their 3rd string QB and moved up. I don't think Notre Dame is receiving any benefit of the doubt.

Lets not forget the loss to UCF

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Who is Iowa's top win...Northwestern? A team that is ranked below Notre Dame's highest ranked win right now. Can't discredit Navy then act like beating Northwestern is some amazing feat, either they are both solid wins or they are both overrated wins. Other than that Iowa has beat two teams with a pulse, Wisconsin and Pitt.

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Northwestern is 9-2 with a win over a top ten team, the same team that will be Notre Dame's biggest and best win of the season.

Minnesota played three current top ten teams consecutively, two on the road, and they took every one of them to the wire, ohio state pulled away late. The also lost by less than a touchdown against TCU to open the season. Four close losses to top 20 teams -- no pulse.

Wisconsin has lost to three top 20 teams, two being legit playoff contenders.

Re: Pitt, both teams beat them. Iowa played them early on, Notre Dame played them mid-season. Splitting of hairs here.

To say iowa isn't a good team is a display of sheer ignorance.

Iowa might lose to Sparty, but it will not be a big loss. Iowa has crushed teams sparty had issues with.

Iowa has not trailed once in the fourth quarter this year.

Iowa's opponent's have a combined losing record, and that includes a 9-2 FCS school. Get the hell out of here trying to pump up some moral victory "they hung close with 3 straight teams" bs. Iowa is a horrible football team who has played 2-3 teams with a pulse and struggled against two of them.

ND vs Iowa SOS.

Six of the Fainting Irish's eleven opponents have losing records. They needed a Hail Mary to beat four win Virginia. Illinois state would hang with all of them.

Notre Dame's buoy is a loss to a contender and two wins against American conference teams. Their best win, if they do win, will be against a team that lost to Northwestern, a team Iowa beat by 30 with a third string tailback going for 200 yards and 4tds.

Also, a big difference between hanging close in three straight games and hanging close with three straight teams currently ranked in the top ten.

Who has iowa struggled with again? They have never trailed in the fourth quarter.

Lastly, Michigan state has a SOS in the fifties. Do you believe Notre Dame has played a tougher schedule than Sparty?

Yes I do think they have a better schedule than MSU. Oregon is a wild card on MSU's schedule and I think with a healthy Vernon Adams they would have been a lot better. Other than that they have an okay win over Air Force and a really good win over OSU. If Notre Dame takes care of business against Stanford Saturday, then they will have at the moment a better schedule than MSU. Though the Big 10 championship will help to push MSU some.

No lol my point is Tennessee isn't good, and USC has shown flashes but it's not a great win.

No one was arguing undefeated (now 1 loss) UH should be top 5, or that Memphis when undefeated after beating highly ranked Ole Mise should be top 5. So sorry your team being undefeated isn't impressive, and they definitely aren't worthy of being top 6, though a good win over Nebraska and MSU may make me change my mind, but honestly don't see that happening.

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Yes I do think they have a better schedule than MSU. Oregon is a wild card on MSU's schedule and I think with a healthy Vernon Adams they would have been a lot better. Other than that they have an okay win over Air Force and a really good win over OSU. If Notre Dame takes care of business against Stanford Saturday, then they will have at the moment a better schedule than MSU. Though the Big 10 championship will help to push MSU some.

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You forgot about Michigan, another one of MSU's wins that are better than any ND has.