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Michigan-Texas in 2005 was great, good call.

2014 Michigan State- Baylor in the Cotton Bowl is one of my favorite all time 4th quarters. If other great games are dramas, this one is a classic comedy.

Funniest one of these edits I’ve seen maybe lol

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Michigan has 1/2 of a championship since the 1940’s. They aren’t a top program results wise and Harbaugh has been successful for them. This is their ceiling.
This type of thing happens every year. Oh he convinced guys to come play for him and left? That’s happened with like 99% of coaching hires ever. He obviously didn’t think he was getting the job until he got an offer he couldn’t refuse. Do people seriously think this was his plan all along? Or that schools usually get a freaking negotiating window to counter offer when their coach gets poached? Was he supposed to turn down becoming fantastically wealthy to risk floundering in Boulder and never having this opportunity again as long as he lives?

Do people just not remember instances like Saban routinely lying through his teeth when leaving a job or Rich Rod going to UM and then trying to steal WV’s recruits immediately after accepting while still a WV employee and during a dead period?

I can’t help but think some of this media vitriol stems from subconscious racial bias against the now 2nd highest paid black coach in college or pro football...
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Dantonio reset the bar. Winning 7 games isn't good enough when you've been to the Rose Bowl and playoffs in very recent history.


MSU fans still have reasonable expectations though, especially with a top b-ball program. If you win 8 or so games there with a 10+ season mixed in every 3-4 years you’ll be good. Dantonio was just atrocious the last few years though with no signs of progress. We just want to be competitive and watch fun football.

re: Mel Tucker to Michigan State

Posted by DevinTheDude on 2/12/20 at 10:59 am to
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Tucker...I can see why Colorado wouldn't match that MSU offer. I think he has potential as a coach, but MSU threw a huge offer at him. He was staying until MSU made a Godfather offer.


MSU is 13th in athletic department revenue and brings in almost double what Colorado does. They’re usually around 20th in football attendance with fans who have shown up for decades despite limited success. They’re in a different ballpark and CO was never gonna pay up like MSU did. You gotta strike when the iron is hot otherwise all of a sudden you’re not the hot name bigger schools want.
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They already had a defensive mind. They needed an offensive mind. But MSU has a low bar. If he can win 7 a year he'll retire there.


MSU fans are used to having a stout defense and wavering offense though. I think they can handle that at this point more than going back to the John L Smith days of losing heartbreaking shootouts because of your pansy defense.

re: Mel Tucker to Michigan State

Posted by DevinTheDude on 2/12/20 at 8:46 am to
As a State fan I am pretty pumped about this after the Fickell debacle. People don’t realize how hard it is to bring in someone a couple weeks before spring ball starts, especially after the last 3 years of crap we’ve had. Now we get a badass young recruiter who’s the highest paid black coach in the country to bring some excitement in.

I’m also really happy about the staff money. My biggest problem with Dantonio was his staff the last few years was always filled with his buddies who didn’t even like to recruit. I mean Bollman, Staten, and Warner??? These are not guys who belong on a top-25 program’s staff right now. Can’t imagine Bollman walking into some 18 year old’s living room trying to make his pitch with crumbs in his beard.

Now with all this said, I know MSU is not a top-10 job but we’ve only had 1 solid coach, Saban, get poached by another program since I’ve been following- but it really sucked. I can’t help but think bringing Tucker in like this is like dating the girl who cheated on her husband with you. I really hope he doesn’t get snatched by LSU or whoever in a few years.

re: A realistic path for revolt

Posted by DevinTheDude on 12/19/18 at 1:30 pm to
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Now of course there is no way it would be politically feasible because all the people on the dole would immediately vote out any politician, no matter the party, who even hinted at cutting aid programs.


It often is politically impossible to remove an entitlement once it's in place, but voters don't always vote in their interest.

The ACA dropped uninsured rates up to 10% points in states including Kentucky, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Montana, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Texas- yet many of those same voters who received the benefit have in the aftermath continually voted for the party that has publically vowed to repeal the program that got them on health insurance. All those states went red in 2016. This can happen when identity politics comes to the forefront like in 2016.

re: A realistic path for revolt

Posted by DevinTheDude on 12/19/18 at 1:04 pm to
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Don’t know how many times weve seen this bogus argument on this board. I agree that Alabama takes too many federal dollars. It is not the fault of the productive, tax paying citizens of this state. Those people see the least amount of federal funding




Regardless of which Reps/Senators enacted laws you don't support and the fact that not everyone in each states receives benefits like SNAP and Medicaid, the simple fact remains that the states that would have the hardest time breaking from the federal govt (because they receive so much from the federal govt) would be the big taker states like Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia, South Carolina, Louisiana, etc.

re: A realistic path for revolt

Posted by DevinTheDude on 12/19/18 at 12:13 pm to
OP's premise seems to ignore the fact that the big blue states subsidize the big red states by giving more than they take from the Federal Govt. Alabama, which the OP cites, is just about the biggest offenders of states that are takers. AL is about the last state that would be able to ween off federal $$ lol.

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Michigan State was going to change their logo to a different Spartan helmet shape that some idiot at Nike came up with until the fans found the trademark request and went nuts.
He wasn't bragging? He literally said "you're not invited to the club. Sucks for you". Pretty clearly was bragging. I have no problem with passionate fans and love that about college sports.

Just with the blueblood fanbases you do see the aforementioned attitude where some think they are superior because of the team they root for. Again this is a well documented phenomenon with big programs where you have large swaths of the fanbases clinging on to the team's success as part of their identity.

I wasn't responding to you, don't give a shite who you root for. And no, again, I'm not projecting in any way in my general observation of portions of the fanbases of blueblood programs. Once again, I don't root for any blue bloods.

Just calling it like I see that it that big programs like UK, OSU, UM, Bama, etc. attract a lot of sad people (certainly not the whole fanbase) who don't have a lot going for them in life and attach themselves to those historically successful programs as a vehicle to feel validation in at least one part of their life. You see that right here in this very thread with a UK fan bragging about nothing more than being a UK fan.
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Sorry baw, you're not invited to the club. Sucks for you. Now, kindly frick off.


To be honest, I really can't think of a less exclusive club than being a Kentucky basketball fan lol. What sort of deluded mindset even goes into thinking that rooting for UK basketball is some sort of club that one gets into?
Lol looks like the white trash Kentucky and Michigan fans are up in arms about this thread. You guys are so special because of the sports teams you root for. Which community college did you two attend? And no by definition I'm not projecting, I don't root for any blue bloods. Sports are just sports to me.
Talk about a chip on your shoulder. Sorry I struck a nerve and sorry for the "flip attempt" lol. My comments aren't anything groundbreaking about the fanbases of big programs, this is commonly accepted stuff.
I'm projecting? You seem to be the one triggered by my comment. I'm just calling it like I see it. The fact that you're getting so worked up kind of seems like maybe I pegged you.
I have nothing against historic programs being described as blue bloods. Their trash fans that feel some sort of superiority by rooting for them is a little absurd though. The blue blood programs truly have the worst fanbases because you have a lot of sad, angry people that root for these teams to cling onto to something that makes them feel better than others.