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re: Lesner's Victory speech

Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:45 am to
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:45 am to
If anyone has a problem with Lesner I would like to see them do something about it. No one in the UFC can touch him right now and thats a fact. Fedor is a paper champion until he steps up and fights in the UFC. Right now Lesner is the baddest MMA fighter on the planet so IMO he can do whatever he wants.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16996 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:50 am to
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Fedor is a paper champion




Are you fricking serious?

Fedor is proven. He's beaten anybody that's been put in front of him.

Lesnar is fricking 4-1, with 1 loss to a mediocre challenger and Fedor is a "paper champion?"

This might be the most arse backwards logic I've ever seen. Congrats.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 12:55 am to
Until he wins in the UFC he is nothing. Saying Fedor is the best fighter ever is like saying Sadaharu Oh is the best Home Run hitter ever.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16996 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 1:50 am to
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Until he wins in the UFC he is nothing.


I guess we will have to disagree. Strongly.
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
19482 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 7:39 am to
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Fedor is a paper champion




Fedor about to fight Josh Barnett, who is better than anyone currently in the UFC HW class. So saying any organization other than the UFC is irrelevant isn't true for the HW division. This is definitely UFC's weakest class.
This post was edited on 7/13/09 at 7:41 am
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37594 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 7:56 am to
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Until he wins in the UFC he is nothing


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466944 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 7:59 am to
shall i bring up tim silvia?
Posted by ian
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2008
160 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 8:08 am to
PLEASE NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10593 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 8:22 am to
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There is a difference between paying to be there and being paid to be there. Different standards apply when you are a professional.


I agree with that, but does that still show class to be a fan watching athletes do something you obvisouly can't do and boo them?
I'm not disputing the fact that they have the right to do it, i just think it shows no class and no understanding of fighting to boo these guys because to you as a fan it's not to your liking. They have the same right to do it as Lesnar did even though Lesnar is a professional athlete.
Posted by mackdadee
Member since Jan 2009
740 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 8:44 am to
was there to watch it live!

made the expo, the sport has come a LONG WAY...shook Bispings hand while he was walking through the Mandalay Bay lobby like you and me...even signed autographs...

but holy shite, i thought the dude was dead after Henderson cranked that bomb

as for Lesnar, love him hate him, that's why it's MMA and not just boxing or just martial arts...this sport is legit and here to stay...

as for sports villains, you dont think the "establishment" / whities went apeshit when Ali chunked his Olympic Gold medal?

until someone whoops Brock's arse he can talk all the shite he wants as far as I'm concerned...i mean get real peeps, i paid big money (you pay) to watch entertainment...give em all roids, shoot em up with speed and if they explode blood and guts all over the ring then i got my money's worth...



sportsmanship? who the frick really gives a flying rats arse, we all want Red Bull, 5hr energies and extreme sports entertainment, not guys handing out flowers and sissy figs spanking each other on the arse
This post was edited on 7/13/09 at 8:48 am
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 8:50 am to
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If anyone has a problem with Lesner I would like to see them do something about it.
480, you dumbass. So no one can have an opinion unless they want to fight Lesnar over it?

Anyway, I don't know if Lesnar is really an a-hole or just a guy that isn't too bright and has a background in an industry where his actions post-fight would have been encouraged, even required.

In real life, assholes aren't nearly as much of a draw as a guy that people like or admire (all obviously my opinion only). Or maybe he's one of those guys that can do some stupid shite when the adrenaline and rush of the moment is hitting them.

I guess time will tell.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12808 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 8:51 am to
sorry. i totally disagree. i want more people to accept and respect mma and lesnar antics will only get wwe meatheads to watch and the mainstream to hate it more.
Posted by mackdadee
Member since Jan 2009
740 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 8:55 am to
you douche bags don't know your history...

Muhamad Ali:

Clay built a reputation by correctly predicting the round in which he would "finish" several opponents, and by boasting before his triumphs.[3] Clay admitted he adopted the latter practice from "Gorgeous" George Wagner, a popular professional wrestling champion in the Los Angeles area who drew thousands of fans.[3] Often referred to as "the man you loved to hate," George could incite the crowd with a few heated remarks, and Ali followed suit.

dumb fricks
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3082 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 9:01 am to
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First of all it's not a sport.

fwiw, mma is as much a sport to the fighter's as football is to the players..
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There are 3 sports maybe more.
maybe more huh???? i agree there are three MAJOR sports, but get your head out of the sand...
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don't care if he flips off the crowd
I care, esp when im watching the fight with my wife and daughter, who loves to watch the fights with me... i/we understand and can take the language most times, but he went way over the top...
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Don't take this to seriously it's not football or basketball

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It's entertainment
so is football and basketball.... unless you are a participant...
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12808 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 9:01 am to
i'm stupid because i don't agree with you? Lots of people hated Ali. Brave man throwing out insults on a message board.

I'd rather watch fighters fight than a lot of theatics. That's just me (aka the douchebag)...
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3082 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 9:03 am to
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lsu480
you sound like an informed poster...
tell me which is better UFC or MMA???
Posted by mackdadee
Member since Jan 2009
740 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 9:06 am to
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i'm stupid because i don't agree with you? Lots of people hated Ali. Brave man throwing out insults on a message board.


lots of people hated Ali? "In 1999, Ali was crowned "Sportsman of the Century" by Sports Illustrated and "Sports Personality of the Century" by the BBC"

i didn't like him either but don't deny his appeal and there is a direct correlation to then vs now

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I'd rather watch fighters fight than a lot of theatics


that's what they do between the rounds...everything else is entertainment, deal with it
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12808 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 9:12 am to
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lots of people hated Ali? "In 1999, Ali was crowned "Sportsman of the Century" by Sports Illustrated and "Sports Personality of the Century" by the BBC"


wow...BBC and SI represent all of the world's opinions?

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everything else is entertainment


doesn't have to be for true fans.

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deal with it


i am done dealing with you

Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22226 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 9:14 am to
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Lesnar is fricking 4-1, with 1 loss to a mediocre challenger and Fedor is a "paper champion?"


no shite, fedor would destroy mir an anyone else brock has faced.
Posted by BiggTiger
Member since Feb 2007
223 posts
Posted on 7/13/09 at 9:33 am to
Yes Fedor would beat everyone Brock has fought. Thought, the best fight would be Fedor vs. Coulture.

With that said, Brock will beat Fedor due to shear size and strength. Brock will take Fedor to the ground and hammer fist him just like Mir. Fedor's chances come when Brock shoots in, maybe able to catch him with a punch or a knee. Brock tends to lead with his head down, making him prone to not seeing a punch or knee. Another chance could be a arm bar or Kamora(please forgive the spelling of that), but thats a long shot considering Brocks massive upper body strength.
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