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re: John Gruden said its difficult to find a great pass rusher
Posted on 9/21/18 at 3:33 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 9/21/18 at 3:33 pm to UltimateHog
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starters have a decent amount of talent,
Since we’re both PFF fans, you have one player in the secondary graded as a top 32 player at his respective position (Melvin), Derrick Johnson is by far your best grades LB and he’s 50 years old, and your DL consists of a bunch of guys recently brought in off the street. The young “talent” on that team is awful, hence them signing a bunch of vets and cutting a 2nd round pick.
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Posted on 9/21/18 at 3:45 pm to theducks
But the defense ranks 22nd, 10 spots above last, so the talent can't be the worst in the NFL. That just wouldn't make sense.
Also PFF grades on their color scale from Elite to Rookie, so the Raiders have 2 CB's that grade as average or better, 3 if you want to count Conley as a rookie that is right on the fringe.
The DL has a ton of talent just from the 2018 draft class alone in first round talents Arden Key and Mo Hurst, with 2nd round pick PJ Hall being the best of those 3 all camp/preseason but hurt currently.
Awful is nowhere near accurate.
Also PFF grades on their color scale from Elite to Rookie, so the Raiders have 2 CB's that grade as average or better, 3 if you want to count Conley as a rookie that is right on the fringe.
The DL has a ton of talent just from the 2018 draft class alone in first round talents Arden Key and Mo Hurst, with 2nd round pick PJ Hall being the best of those 3 all camp/preseason but hurt currently.
Awful is nowhere near accurate.
This post was edited on 9/21/18 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 9/21/18 at 4:03 pm to lsupride87
he has the tools no doubt. there was a time i thought he could be the #1 overall pick.
watching him gasp for air on the sidelines that game vs the rams made me think he still isnt where he needs to be in terms of his maturity and preparation. i know an out of shape guy that looks like he is about to puke when i see one.
watching him gasp for air on the sidelines that game vs the rams made me think he still isnt where he needs to be in terms of his maturity and preparation. i know an out of shape guy that looks like he is about to puke when i see one.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 4:06 pm to UltimateHog
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But the defense ranks 22nd, 10 spots above last, so the talent can't be the worst in the NFL
It’s been two weeks and you faced a rusty Rams offense and a mediocre Broncos offense.
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Also PFF grades on their color scale from Elite to Rookie, so the Raiders have 2 CB's that grade as average or better, 3 if you want to count Conley as a rookie that is right on the fringe.
And I compared them to their peers hence “top 32”.
As currently constructed, Oakland has only a few players who will still be on the roster three seasons from now. Which going back to my original point, no reason to kee Mack along for this rebuild when it’s a complete overhaul.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 4:08 pm to theducks
I just don't agree, but I don't expect someone to know my team as well as me either.
Posted on 9/21/18 at 4:17 pm to UltimateHog
Well, you were wrong about the Mack thing from the start
We’ll see as the season unfolds. I’m rooting for Hurst to have personal success
We’ll see as the season unfolds. I’m rooting for Hurst to have personal success
Posted on 9/21/18 at 4:18 pm to theducks
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Well, you were wrong about the Mack thing from the start
Huh?
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