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re: James Harden just keeps going. Scored 57 points tonight.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:48 am to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:48 am to Boomshockalocka
Shoving the defender off.
Offensive foul.
Not called.
Travel/carry
Not called.
Why is that ok?
I saw him take 4 steps before 3 pt shot and not be called. They were small steps.
Offensive foul.
Not called.
Travel/carry
Not called.
Why is that ok?
I saw him take 4 steps before 3 pt shot and not be called. They were small steps.
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 11:55 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
The handles. Balance. Hoops iq. Passing. Etc etc. stuff that the casual fan can’t appreciate
You are the casual fan.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:08 pm to CelticDog
He did have a travel that was missed on a step back. He takes 10 step back a game Bubba. You harping on ONE missed call.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:11 pm to CelticDog
Show B the verbiage in the rules for “shoving the defender off”
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:19 pm to Boomshockalocka
Show me the verbiage about a player not getting foul calls because he's too big strong and fast.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:27 pm to Gus007
quote:GTFO. Don't ever mention Magic & fouls in the same category as that flopping Fisherman.
I remember Karl Malone saying, the first thing a rookie needs to learn, if he gets within three feet of Magic Johnson, the refs re going to call a foul.
Go watch the the 1991 NBA Finals and see Pipeen, Jordan & Grant draped over Magic( Lakers only facilitator) for 94 feet. No harm ,no Foul. No flopping.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:29 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
The dribbler must be in control of his body at all times. If illegal contact occurs, the responsibility is on the dribbler.
Here you go. Ie when you drive the bull in China shop You are not in contrl of your body at all times. Like lebron. He just barrel in and then when he hits something he expects it to be a foul. No sir. That dog don’t hunt.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:41 pm to Boomshockalocka
I don't even know how to respond to that bologna 
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:43 pm to ReauxlTide222
LINK
Best pace adjusted scooting season in league history. And the ts% and even efg% blows all the others out the water doesn’t it.
Best pace adjusted scooting season in league history. And the ts% and even efg% blows all the others out the water doesn’t it.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:51 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Show B the verbiage in the rules for “shoving the defender off”
so lame. You have no shame.
This is why people Pee on you.
Just admit the obvious so we can enjoy the discourse and your selected stats.
Pretending you don't see the offensive foul makes you an object of scorn.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 12:54 pm to CelticDog
You are the one blaming the refs and you gonna say someone else has no shame. Ref blaming is the single biggest bitch move a sports fan can make that there is
Posted on 1/15/19 at 1:56 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
My man AI went to the line as much as hardwn didn’t he and people loved that guy. I did at least.
AI was shooting 19+ 2PAs per game to get his 11 FTAs.
Harden is getting it on ticky tack shite on the perimeter. He shoots half the 2PAs of AI.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:05 pm to slackster
Hardwn this year is the highest scoring player in modern league history (pace adjusted) and none of the other top scorers are anywhere close to him when it comes to efg or ts. That includes mike the GOT. This is the best offensive season in our leagues history. Although we said that last year about hardwn too didn’t we.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:08 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Hardwn this year is the highest scoring player in modern league history (pace adjusted) and none of the other top scorers are anywhere close to him when it comes to efg or ts. That includes mike the GOT. This is the best offensive season in our leagues history. Although we said that last year about hardwn too didn’t we.
It's a shame the way he's officiated makes it so ugly to watch.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 2:19 pm to slackster
If you are low iq yes. But Iwe already knew that about you.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:24 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:Okay then. Last night James Harden shot 18 free throws. Here are gifs of every shooting foul. Which of these, if any, was he just given a free trip to the line without being fouled?
You can if you truly don't believe that he should be shooting those free throws.
1. Defender’s wrist hits Harden’s elbow
2. Defender hacks across Harden’s arms
3. Both defenders grab his arms as he goes up
4. Defender uses left arm to grab Harden’s arm
5. Defender pushes Harden in the back as he goes up
6. Defender jumps into Harden with his body
7. Two defenders hit Harden across the arms
8. Far side defender hacks down on Harden’s arm as he goes up
9. Defender doesn’t give Harden space to land, and bumps him with his body
Every single one of those are fouls in any league. Y’all need to stop just using box score free throw attempt numbers and actually watch the games.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:45 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:That isn't my stance and you know it.
Which of these, if any, was he just given a free trip to the line without being fouled?
These are the types of things that are auto free throws for Harden that Lebron doesn't get as often. 
Travel. But I don't care, Lebron travels more than Harden. 
quote:You're starting to lose me. "Let em play" doesn't even exist for a defender against Harden at this point. Nobody pushed him there, bro.
Defender pushes Harden in the back as he goes up
As I make his post ESPN showed Harden get separation on #4(and on a corner 3 from last night) by elbowing a guy with an extended elbow. On the 3 pointer he got the room for the step back by using his elbow. On your #4 gif he leaned in and used the elbow to get separation, sorta faked the pause/potential to shoot with the separation, and then drove past the guy trying to get back after being pushed.
quote:Dude this is what I'm talking about. This is 2 for Harden, and almost never 2 for Lebron. Dude people touch each other in this sport. This is the exact shite I'm talking about. You're literally not allowed to touch Harden. Lebron would almost never get that. I literally wouldn't even think foul if a guy did that to Lebron.
6. Defender jumps into Harden with his body
I got tired of this post and only glanced at the rest of your gifs. I didn't see anything I whole heartedly disagreed with, though.
Thanks for the effort you put in, though.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 5:48 pm
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:54 pm to PrimeTime Money
Also..
1. I didn't watch the game last night and didn't bitch about any of the fouls at any point in this thread.
2. I've already explained that I believe his TS% is inflated by 2-4 percentage points. I stand by that and wasn't using last night as an example when I said it.
1. I didn't watch the game last night and didn't bitch about any of the fouls at any point in this thread.
2. I've already explained that I believe his TS% is inflated by 2-4 percentage points. I stand by that and wasn't using last night as an example when I said it.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:02 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:It wasn’t travel. I started the gif at the top of his dribble. He was on the same leg as his dribble when the gif started, and then took two steps.
Travel. But I don't care, Lebron travels more than Harden.
quote:It’s clear as day that Casspi pushes him with his right hand in his lower back as he was in the air. Refs will call that every time. It’s called often on rebounds too. It’s a common call, and it’s clear in the gif. No Grizzlies player disputed it, because it was obvious, especially in real time.
You're starting to lose me. "Let em play" doesn't even exist for a defender against Harden at this point. Nobody pushed him there, bro.
quote:It’s not the best angle on the replay, but it’s obvious how the defender jumped right into him. Real time and a side angle it was clear. I’ll post another angle later.
Dude this is what I'm talking about. This is 2 for Harden, and almost never 2 for Lebron. Dude people touch each other in this sport. This is the exact shite I'm talking about. You're literally not allowed to touch Harden. Lebron would almost never get that. I literally wouldn't even think foul if a guy did that to Lebron.
The point is, he’s clearly being hacked, pushed, grabbed, etc whenever he goes to the basket because defenders are playing catch-up. He has them beat, and their only option is to foul. He’s not just flailing and not being touched.
You’re comparing him to LeBron, but others aren’t. They think he doesnt get fouled and the refs are just giving him calls. It’s nonsense.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:03 pm to ReauxlTide222
Look at how much more efficient hardwn is than other high volume scorers. Including GOAT. and this doesn’t even consider hardwns top 2 in the nba passing ability does it.
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