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re: It's Clear What Bosa's End Game Is Here

Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Tigerfan56
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:11 am to
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A player who hasn't played in a year won't see the first round


Tyrann Mathieu went in the third round after sitting out a year. And he had character concerns for sitting out a year due to being kicked off his team, plus he was a borderline first round talent without any concerns (hindsight is 20/20 but coming out of college he was undersized, don't think he would have been a first rounder)

Bosa has no such concerns and is a top 5 talent. He absolutely would go first round next year. Late first round he would be an absolute steal.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:21 am to
I wouldn't go with absolutely. First of all there are arguably better talents in this next draft anyway so even if he were coming out next year in the first place he probably wouldn't be a top 10 pick.

Out of sight out of mind as well, there's no substitute for playing football. He's not going to be as prepared or well conditioned as guys that have just been in college ball and are getting ready for the combine.

I think he's lucky if he goes late first next year. Early second sounds like a more realistic scenario.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 10:22 am
Posted by PairofDucks
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:50 am to
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The entertainment never stops on here.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 10:55 am to
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Bosa has no such concerns


Guess you forgot about his suspension vs Virginia Tech? While it did not play into much this year, it could come into play if he sits a whole year.
This post was edited on 8/26/16 at 10:56 am
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:01 am to
He sat because of his grades. He's not going to have to worry about academics if he sits.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:18 am to
He sat for both in every report I saw. But if you can show me it was just grades, please do.
Posted by KillerNut9
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 11:47 am to
I'd like to see the reports your referring to. Ohio State announced 4 player suspensions at once due to either academics or marijuana. It was never publicly released what each player was suspended for.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/26/16 at 12:14 pm to
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I think he's lucky if he goes late first next year. Early second sounds like a more realistic scenario.


In fact, this whole hypothetical plan only makes sense if he goes at the top of the second next year. That way, he only has the 4 year contract as opposed to a 4 year plus team option as a low first round pick.

The Chargers are being complete and total pricks and I would like to see this blow up in their faces as much as anyone but Bosa not signing at this point, even if he's getting fricked (and that's a very relative term in this scenario) really only makes any sense if he feels that playing for the Chargers will lead to him being a bust and any other team will develop him.
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 3:25 pm to
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I wouldn't go with absolutely. First of all there are arguably better talents in this next draft anyway so even if he were coming out next year in the first place he probably wouldn't be a top 10 pick.


There are better talents, sure. But ten? I doubt that. He's still a top ten talent next year. Plays a high-valued position, and would be in the running/possibly favorite to be the number 2 DE behind Garrett.

I get that he's from OSU, so the cool thing to do is say he's not that good or overrated, but he's a stud.

You think 15 teams picking in the latter half of the first round are going to pass up a guy at a premium position with more potential than anyone available? Pretty big stretch, especially since those teams are better and typically have the luxury of simply drafting for the best player on the board.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/26/16 at 6:07 pm to
Everyone knows why Archie would not let his son play for that schmuck.

When you are looking at millions no matter what, you can decide never to play for schmucks. Period.

bonus up front. Period.

The odds are that the next team will have a brighter future too.
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