re: Is the problem with the Harbaugh offense the same as the problem with the Les offense?

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and this is considered "building" todays current Stanford program?

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Yes. The foundation of physical, hard nosed football was set under Harbaugh. Shaw has done a hell of a job sustaining it.

I'm not entirely sure that you remember exactly how bad that 2006 Stanford team was. They went 1-11 and got blown out in just about every loss. Their win was against a pretty bad Washington team, IIRC.

Fast forward a few years. The 49ers were going nowhere fast. They hadn't made the playoffs since 2002 and Alex Smith was viewed as a complete bust. In 2011, Harbaugh's first year, they hosted the NFCCG. They went to the NFCCG in his first 3 years and won one of them.

I'm not understanding why people think he sucks at coaching. I'm gonna need a hell of a lot better of an explanation than "hurr durr he's overpaid".

rocket31 is taking a risk right now. He could be the butt of a lot of jokes on here around 2019/2020 if Harbaugh takes us to the promise land

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honeslty man, im not sure why youre looking at SRS, its a pretty elementary evaluation of team strength

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Sure, but it's quick and easy, and I can quickly see a school's historical SRS dating back to 1800s.

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your posts would be much more valuable if they were S&P

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If there is an easy way to access it, I would be happy to use a difference metric.

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also Harbaugh makes 2x as much as BK so im not really understanding the comparison.

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Well Kelly is grossly underpaid, 65th according to this ranking:

NCAA Football Coaches Salaries

But obviously the simple economics of it is that Harbaugh is a successful NFL coach so whereas ND and UM are top tier programs, the only real upward competition in the market would be the NFL, and Harbaugh is unique in that capacity.

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if anything, its proving that JH is vastly overpaid

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If you're only looking at the coaches' value on the field, but of course the market is far more than just that, and as I said above, Harbaugh is unique with his NFL success.

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your posts would be much more valuable if they were S&P

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OK. So it took a little more time, but I was able to find the S&P+ rankings for the same years I ran the SRS for Harbaugh:

Stanford
Year S&P+ Margin Rank
2006 -8.7 94th
2007 -2.7 71st (Harbaugh's first year)
2008 +3.9 45th
2009 +7.9 30th (Luck's freshman year)
2010 +20.2 6th (Harbaugh's last year)
2011 +16.6 9th (Luck's last year)

Michigan
Year S&P+ Margin Rank
2014 +5.8 48th
2015 +20.5 5th (Harbaugh's first year)
2016 +26.8 3rd
2017 +9.0 27th

So a average S&P+ of 7.33 at Stanford, 18.77 at UM, and 12.23 overall, with a 16.88 over his last 5 seasons as a CFB coach. In addition, it improved by 6.0 in his first year at Stanford and 14.7 in his first year at UM.