re: Is Texas an overrated program?

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They have the most money

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now but not always the case, pretty recent development really

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best facilities,

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hum, link?

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best recruits,

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false. Do they have great recruits? Yes, better than Florida, USC, LSU, Bama, tOSU etc, no chance.

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much like mack brown is an overrated coach. he has what, 2 big 12 titles in 12 years? all while being in a state where the other schools in the conference have to come in and completely raid if they want any chance of competing for the conference crown

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Do you realize that Texas like every other NCAA school can only sign 25 players/year. OU has ALWAYS recruited Texas, they are closer to parts of North Texas, its not like an out of school coming into La or Alabama or other smaller states.

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Texas might be the easiest state to recruit at, what, half the kids in state are 100% longhorns and most of the rest at least favor UT

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You have no fricking clue what you are talking about. 15 years ago A&M was the #1 program in the state that changed when underachiever Mack Brown was hired. I love how you guys assume todays situation always applied.

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so OU was down in 2008 when they went to the BCS CG

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No, that was the one year they weren't. But Texas didn't win the Big 12.

Oklahoma was down in 2005, 2006, and 2009.

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And they were down in 2007 when the went to Fiesta as well I guess.

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I guess you mean 2006? Oklahoma was playing with a wide receiver at QB.

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But Texas didn't win the Big 12.

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because of a fluke, they had the best record in the conference and beat both teams that played in the CCG, how often can that happen?

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Oklahoma was down in 2005, 2006, and 2009.

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OU was down in 05 and 09, they won the Big 12 in 2006, 07 and 08. Texas beat them 2 of those 3 years. In 2006 UT lost their last 2 games and "blew" the conference, other than that what years did they "underachieve"? I'll grant you OU and Stoops are/were better, especially 2000-04, but that does not = underachieving.

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baseball diamond had the grass mowed recently

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their baseball field is turf

Texas, IMO, has not underachieved. They consistently are among the top 10 and are ALWAYS a contender for the NC. The BCS has been their biggest opponent recently and if college football had a playoff system Texas easily has atleast 1 if not 2 more national titles.


As for Mack Brown being an overrated coach - How the hell could one possibly say that? Look at the man's record. By the same token, he's not really a coach IMO. He is a CEO who is the best recruiter in the nation, and allows his coordinators to do the coaching.

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How the hell could one possibly say that? Look at the man's record.

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I throw this out when ever this stupid topic come up and these tards always ignore it, but his last 2 years at UNC, he lost a grand total of 3 games* and UNC was 1-10 before hiring him. Since he left though UNC has lost AT LEAST 5 GAMES EVERY YEAR. But no he can't coach

* 2 of those 3 loses were to Florida State who in turn lost a a grand total of 2 those 2 years, both to Florida 1 of those a NCG.

Texas is THE MOST OVERRATED PROGRAM IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

For decades, they inflated their W-L record by beating the dogshit out of: Rice, Houston, SMU, TCU, Baylor, A&M, Tx Tech and UTEP. Not to mention two out of conference cupcakes. Arkansas and OU were the only yearly opponents anywhere near their level. YEP... THAT'S IT.

Now, they're trying like hell to revert back to the old SWC days.

They are completely overrated, and the biggest pussies in football.

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and you're a fricking idiot too.

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So Texas didn't play in a fricking big boy conference for decades with big time programs like...
Rice, Houston, SMU, UTEP, TX Tech, Baylor, TCU, A&M, OU and Arky? Plus.. two out of conference cupcakes.

That should be a guaranteed 10 win season every fricking year. And they're currently reverting back to this pussy-arse schedule.

They regularly played all of two teams anywhere near their level for 40 years. Thus, an inflated W-L record.

And again.. the pussies are trying to go back to bullying little teams with the shitty arse, revised big xii.

Now which part of this factual post is idiotic?

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For decades, they inflated their W-L record by beating the dogshit out of: Rice, Houston, SMU, TCU, Baylor, A&M, Tx Tech and UTEP. Not to mention two out of conference cupcakes. Arkansas and OU were the only yearly opponents anywhere near their level. YEP... THAT'S IT.

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By the same token, Nebraska and Oklahoma inflated their W-L record big-time against weak Big Eight opponents. And unlike Nebraska, Texas has actually held their own against top non-conference competition. Using your standards, Nebraska is way more overrated than Texas as a program.

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So Texas didn't play in a fricking big boy conference for decades with big time programs like...
Rice, Houston, SMU, UTEP, TX Tech, Baylor, TCU, A&M, OU and Arky? Plus.. two out of conference cupcakes.

That should be a guaranteed 10 win season every fricking year.

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If you are too fricking stupid to realize that the current status of various programs in the 2000's is not the same as in the past then I can't help you. Teams basically played only 10 games up thru the late 60's and 11 into the 90's so expecting them to win 10 every year is a tad unrealistic.

As for cupcakes, please provide some thing resembling proof that Texas played a weaker schedule than other power house teams over the years. Just glancing at their schedules over the years I see plenty of big name teams beside OU who was an OOC game until 1996. Schedules in the 40,50,60's etc is not the same as it is today.

The CFBdatawarehouse ranks Texas # 7 all time, seems about right.

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