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re: Is Pat Mahomes a check-down merchant at this point?
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:54 am to lsupride87
Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:54 am to lsupride87
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Bills and Allen last year rolled through everybody with their offense with Shakir as their top WR…
Elite QBs rolls no matter what. The last few years for Mahomes he has been very meh. It’s been very strange and completely unexpected
Until they rolled into Mahomes again. And yeah, they got screwed with the spot I think, but the point is Mahomes still beat them.
It's not the worst WR room in the league, but it's in the lower half.
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Posted on 9/6/25 at 8:57 am to SLCGumpFB25
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Until they rolled into Mahomes again. And yeah, they got screwed with the spot I think, but the point is Mahomes still beat them.
Last year the chiefs had the 12th scoring offense Bills had the 2nd
Chiefs we’re 14th in scoring offense on 2023
But yes, the chiefs defense is elite and wins games for them. Not sure why that has any point on a thread about QB play?
Chiefs are completely average the last two years on the offensive side of the ball , you know the unit Mahomes actually plays on?
Find years for me where Brady,brees, manning etc had scoring offenses that bad , especially consecutively
Mahomes is not elite the last few years. He isn’t. He leads a middle of the pack nfl offense and leans and prays for great defense to win
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 9:00 am
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:02 am to lsupride87
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Elite QBs rolls no matter what. The last few years for Mahomes he has been very meh. It’s been very strange and completely unexpected
This is where you lost it.
You're saying Allen is better, which I don't necessarily even disagree with, but that Mahomes is meh.
One of them keeps losing to the other and it isn't Mahomes. And they haven't been defensive slugfests.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:04 am to SLCGumpFB25
Elite QBs don’t have middle of the pack offenses regardless of their supporting cast
He hasn’t been elite the past few years
He hasn’t been elite the past few years
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:06 am to sorantable
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Did you watch the game tonight? He’s incredible
I watched him run to the right and take what the defense gave him.
I also saw him complete some deep shots into broken coverage.
He played well but I don’t think it was anything that a number of other guys in the league couldn’t do.
My question is how many years of average to slightly above average stats before the Mahomes shine starts to fade a bit or has the media created armor around him that will never be penetrated regardless of play.
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 9:08 am
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:07 am to St Augustine
quote:It never will for people that count a 17-14 win where the qb has 140 yards and 1 TD as an elite performance because he won
My question is how many years of average to slightly above average stats before the Mahomes shine starts to fade a bit.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:20 am to lsupride87
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He hasn’t been elite the past few years
Yeah I heard this about Brady too. And he just kept winning. Stats aren't the end all be all.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:25 am to SLCGumpFB25
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Yeah I heard this about Brady too
No you didn’t, only once in his entire career, back in 2003
, did Brady ever have a scoring offense outside the top 10 Mahomes has now done it twice in a row in his prime
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:28 am to lsupride87
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No you didn’t
I didn't imagine the stories about Brady being "washed"
Posted on 9/6/25 at 9:29 am to SLCGumpFB25
quote:I don’t know what you saw but I’m just telling you Brady always led a top offense, he never was actually factually mediocre on offense like Mahomes has been these last two years
didn't imagine the stories about Brady being "washed"
The “washed year” was 2013, where the Pats and Brady had the 3rd rank scoring offense….
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 9:30 am
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:22 am to lsupride87
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I don’t know what you saw but I’m just telling you Brady always led a top offense, he never was actually factually mediocre on offense like Mahomes has been these last two years
Brady got labeled as washed like 3 different times.
Mahomes is 29. He could have a decade of good football left in him. The offensive weapons are doo doo this year. Pump the brakes on sticking a fork in him.
You’ve got retarded arse pride doing this because he’s a Bills fan, he has no clue what he’s actually talking about
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:22 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Tell me the years and I’ll show you his scoring offense ranks
Brady got labeled as washed like 3 different times
Go ahead
That’s the thing, people can say whatever they want, but Brady always ran elite offensive units. Mahomes the last few years is running middle of the pack nfl offenses. That’s what game managers do, not elite QBs
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The offensive weapons are doo doo this year
What about the last two years where his offense ranked 14th and 12th? At what point do you stop giving him a pass for not being able to run a good offense?
Your argument is essentially Peyton was elite his last season because “hurt durr Super Bowl”
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:39 am to TTsTowel
They got their best wr hurt running the damn pick play
Posted on 9/6/25 at 10:58 am to lsupride87
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Last year the chiefs had the 12th scoring offense Bills had the 2nd
Congrats. Are they hanging the banner on Sunday?
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:00 am to lsuguy84
Is this a thread about QB play or which team was better?
The fact fully developed human brains still can’t separate the two is wild to me
The fact fully developed human brains still can’t separate the two is wild to me
This post was edited on 9/6/25 at 11:01 am
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:13 am to lsupride87
No, it turned into us laughing about the Bills consistently having one of the top offenses and having nothing to show for it. I’m sorry for any confusion.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:50 am to lsupride87
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Brees had elite passing numbers regardless of WR corps
He had a lot of volume numbers/empty stats too. Still a great qb.
The Chiefs basically forced the league to mass adopt two high looks and that forces everything underneath. I believe they are fine with the offense being a borderline top 10 offense because they’ve invested so heavily in their defense and figure Mahomes and can pull Ws out when needed. Still need to have their WRs healthy and on the field though.
Posted on 9/6/25 at 11:57 am to St Augustine
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He played well but I don’t think it was anything that a number of other guys in the league couldn’t do.
Eh, i dont see many other QBs making some of those plays he made last night.
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