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re: Is Jim Harden overrated?
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:52 am to CatfishJohn
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:52 am to CatfishJohn
They already changed rules with him in mind and he won mvp the next year.
TS This year is still better than Steph, Luka, CP,
Booker, etc. so he is still more efficient scoring than perennial all star types.
TS is down leaguewide, harden is one of the least affected players.
TS This year is still better than Steph, Luka, CP,
Booker, etc. so he is still more efficient scoring than perennial all star types.
TS is down leaguewide, harden is one of the least affected players.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 8:55 am
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:00 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
harden is one of the least affected players.
Happy that he can ride the coattails of embiid this year on a loaded 6ers team. Now when he dissappears in the playoffs embiid will be able to help a lot.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:01 am to Dire Wolf
quote:
that is a dumb take. Harden has a great handle, elite passer, good three shooter, is strong to hoop and has elite body control. He would be good in any era.
Good. Not one of the best offensive players ever.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:02 am to whatiknowsofar
Denver double teamed harden to make him give the ball up to embiid. Let embiid play 4 on 3.
Since when is riding coattails spoon feeding your teammates easy bucks.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:08 am to CatfishJohn
The best according to many. He is the one player who you put him on a team and you will have the top offense in the league. I believe it is going on 6 years now his team offense finishes 1 or 2 at seasons end.
Someone like lebron has not had a better team offense than the one w harden since Bron was in Miami.
Someone like lebron has not had a better team offense than the one w harden since Bron was in Miami.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 9:09 am
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:16 am to Boomshockalocka
quote:
TS is down leaguewide, harden is one of the least affected players.
His EFG% is 4% lower than the league average lol. frick outta here piñata
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:25 am to CatfishJohn
quote:
Good. Not one of the best offensive players ever.
nah he probably still would be. It is one thing to be to call him a choke artist, he is. He is still an incredible scorer and that skill set would travel generations
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:32 am to TheeRealCarolina
Efg does not take FTA attempt into consideration.
It is better than fg%, but Ts% is better and there is no argument against it.
It is better than fg%, but Ts% is better and there is no argument against it.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 11:59 am to Dire Wolf
Has probably never lost a series when he had the better team. Did you ever look at Cp and Russ HOU playoff stats?
Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:02 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Did you ever look at Cp and Russ HOU playoff stats?
Did you ever acknowledge Jims disappearing acts in 4th quarters of several of those games?
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:08 pm to whatiknowsofar
You can find maybe a game or two and I will post 3-4 great games to your 1.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:14 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
You can find maybe a game or two
Lololol
Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:30 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Which is why it’s better than TS%
Efg does not take FTA attempt into consideration.
quote:Other than it’s adds a component that players have no control over and that changes depending on the date and time of each game
It is better than fg%, but Ts% is better and there is no argument against it.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:38 pm to ReauxlTide222
Yea bc getting fouled and getting to the line is a bad thing 
efg meaaurea shooting efficiency. Ts measure scoring efficiency.
efg meaaurea shooting efficiency. Ts measure scoring efficiency. Posted on 3/15/22 at 12:55 pm to Boomshockalocka
It’s subjective, changes for every player, and is lame as hell.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:01 pm to ReauxlTide222
true shooting % is correlated to team wins. The higher the teams TS, the more games they in. EFG does not have anywhere close to the same correlation to winning games. Gettin to the free throw line is the most efficient outcome a possession can have on offense other than a dunk or wide open layup.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:02 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:What about in the postseason?
true shooting % is correlated to team wins
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:03 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:Each round past round 1? I agree
You can find maybe a game or two
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:03 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:I’m sure it does
true shooting % is correlated to team wins
Seemed to correlate very nicely in the 2002 LA vs Kings game
quote:Should Shaq have gotten to the line more than refs let him?
Gettin to the free throw line is the most efficient outcome a possession can have on offense other than a dunk or wide open layup.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 3/15/22 at 1:06 pm to shel311
TS%
HOU V GSW
Harden .594
KD .589
Steph .539
V lakers
Harden .664
Lebron .567
AD .663
Russ .479
V celts
Harden .761
KD .693
Kyrie .630
Tatum .577
As you can see he has had a better TS than Bron, AD, Steph, KD, etc etc the last time he faced off with those guys in the playoffs.
Higher volume and better Efficiency makes it clear cut as to who the best player is in a series.
HOU V GSW
Harden .594
KD .589
Steph .539
V lakers
Harden .664
Lebron .567
AD .663
Russ .479
V celts
Harden .761
KD .693
Kyrie .630
Tatum .577
As you can see he has had a better TS than Bron, AD, Steph, KD, etc etc the last time he faced off with those guys in the playoffs.
Higher volume and better Efficiency makes it clear cut as to who the best player is in a series.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 1:08 pm
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