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re: Insane Brady stat

Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:27 am to
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:27 am to
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His title years by defensive metric.

2003: #1 scoring D
2004: #2 scoring D
2007: #4 scoring D
20014: #8 scoring D
2016: #1 scoring D
2020: #8 scoring D


Brady also leads long methodical drives that chew up clock and limits the number of possessions the opponent gets. Look at TOP last night. He kept Mahomes arse on the bench.

How was San Fran's D with Montana? Pittsburgh's with Bradshaw? Dallas with Aikman? The Manning's in the years they won? Especially Peyton's last one with that insane Denver D. Hell, he couldn't throw it 30 yards downfield in the Super Bowl. Last team to win a Super Bowl without a top 10 defense?
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54546 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:44 am to
quote:

His title years by defensive metric.

2003: #1 scoring D
2004: #2 scoring D
2007: #4 scoring D
20014: #8 scoring D
2016: #1 scoring D
2020: #8 scoring D

Rarely gets talked about.

how many superbowl winning teams had bad defenses. i love how people will use this to shite on brady
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:50 am to
quote:

His title years by defensive metric.

2003: #1 scoring D
2004: #2 scoring D
2007: #4 scoring D
20014: #8 scoring D
2016: #1 scoring D
2020: #8 scoring D

Rarely gets talked about.


Agreed...BUT...many times defenses have success because the offense scores. The opponent is forced into playing from behind and operating outside of their comfort zone..or it allows defense to take more risks

Its ALL related.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:52 am to
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So the patriots only have 3 playoff wins without him?




No they have 7

Brady has 34 which includes 4 from this year with Tampa...
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:53 am to
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Yeah something’s wrong with his math. Patriots were in two Super Bowls before Brady got there and had to have won at least 4 games without him just in those two runs. I’m sure they picked up at least one or two other wins along the the way. Plus, Bledsoe won them the AFCCG in 2001 after they screwjobbed the Raiders.


Something is wrong with your Math
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 10:56 am to
TOP was only 32-28 in favor of Tampa. Plus amazingly KC outgained Tampa overall even with terrible line play.... Brady played great but the MVP of the game should have been Tampa’s offensive line..... Brady was hardly touched the whole game......
Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
5562 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 11:02 am to
quote:

His title years by defensive metric.


Joe Montana title years by defensive metric:

1981-2nd
1984-1st
1988-8th
1989-3rd

Rarely gets talked about
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

Joe Montana title years by defensive metric:

1981-2nd
1984-1st
1988-8th
1989-3rd

Rarely gets talked about



Maybe.... judging QBs by rings alone isn’t the end all be all. And maybe QBs often get more credit than they deserve, particularly when they have an elite unit backing them up.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54546 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:02 pm to
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aybe.... judging QBs by rings alone isn’t the end all be all
true but he just won his 7th it's just insane to think about.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:13 pm to
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Maybe.... judging QBs by rings alone isn’t the end all be all.


You're correct. It isn't. But Brady has seven Super Bowl championships, five Super Bowl MVP awards, three NFL MVP awards, and is a season away from becoming the NFL's all-time career passing yard and passing touchdown leader.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 12:14 pm
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
202644 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:20 pm to
But EVERY year he was on a team that won A SB it was because of a great defense......he should not win the MVP last night........
Posted by PistolPete7
Member since Apr 2020
142 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:20 pm to
2019 the Bucs were number one in scoring D????? They were actually worse this year? hmmmm What changed?
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
3853 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:20 pm to

Has any team ever won a Super Bowl with a bad defense? Let's say a defense that ranked in the high 20's during the regular season or a mediocre defense that played terrible in the playoffs?

I wouldn't be surprised if it's happened once or twice. I just can't think of it off the top of my head.

Recently one of those "we can't stop you from becoming your parents" insurance commercials did a bit where people throw out expressions for things old parents say and one of them was "defense wins championships!" I remember thinking that's pretty true but the latte sipping advertising boi probably doesn't watch sports.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:21 pm to
And has had a string of incredible luck and cheating to help get him there. I refuse to recognize the spygate title.

But he’s also benefited from a tuck rule, a dipshit lining up offsides on a game ending INT, and some other shenanigans I’ve not seen many other QBs consistently benefit from.

He has the titles that others don’t, but his string of pure luck is mind numbing and unexplainable.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:23 pm to
Agreed.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:28 pm to
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I refuse to recognize the spygate title.



Spygate happened in 2007. The Patriots lost to the Giants in the Super Bowl at the end of that season so good on you not recognizing a title they never held.

Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
202644 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:30 pm to
And WHY did they lose that game??????
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

But EVERY year he was on a team that won A SB it was because of a great defense


Every single Super Bowl champion since at least 2013 has ranked in the Top 10 in scoring defense. Of the 110 teams that have made the Super Bowl since the game began, 91 of them finished ranked in the Top 10 in scoring defense.

Also...after having just checked, 48 of the 55 winners have finished in the Top 10 in scoring defense.
This post was edited on 2/8/21 at 12:38 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:37 pm to
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And WHY did they lose that game??????


Because New York was the better team that night?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202644 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 12:37 pm to
Well that’s how it works..... I would still take Montana over Brady.....
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