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re: I don't understand why fumbling into the end zone is a turnover?

Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:25 pm to
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IMO it should be a touchback but the offense keeps the ball.




No.

It should stay exactly as it is.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33061 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:29 pm to
How is that idea laughable but the fact that it goes to the defense as a touchback isn't ridiculous



Posted by grape nutz
sesame street
Member since Mar 2006
3706 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:31 pm to
Because any team near the ez could fumble it out on 4th down and retry from the 20 over and over til they scored or ran the clock out.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33061 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:34 pm to
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Because any team near the ez could fumble it out on 4th down and retry from the 20 over and over til they scored or ran the clock out


Wait what the hell are you talking about? When did I say they get to replay the down?
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:40 pm to
That was already answered.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:42 pm to
loss of down and moving the ball to the spot of the fumble seems like a better solution to me personally
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33061 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:42 pm to
How in the world does that rule stop that? There was no time on the clock during that play.

You have poor comprehension I guess
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:50 pm to
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You have poor comprehension I guess




Says the dude that posted this:

quote:

IMO it should be a touchback but the offense keeps the ball.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33061 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:52 pm to
Makes sense to me

Taking the ball back to the 20 is a big big consequence without taking the ball away
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:54 pm to
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Taking the ball back to the 20 is a big big consequence without taking the ball away


Why should the offense be rewarded with possession?
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33061 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:55 pm to
What happens when the offense fumbles out of bounds at any other part of the field?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 6:56 pm to
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What happens when the offense fumbles out of bounds at any other part of the field?


Don't deflect.

Answer my question.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115576 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:01 pm to
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What happens when the offense fumbles out of bounds at any other part of the field?


By that logic safety's shouldn't count because what happens when the offense is tackled on any other part of the field?
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33061 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:02 pm to
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Answer my question.


quote:

Why should the offense be rewarded with possession?


Okay my answer is you aren't rewarding the offense possession, they already have possession so why should they lose possession because they fumbled out of bounds?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:04 pm to
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Okay my answer is you aren't rewarding the offense possession


Yes you are.

quote:

they already have possession


No they don't.

quote:

fumbled out of bounds


Nope. They fumbled out of the end zone.
Posted by jimithing11
Dillon, Texas
Member since Mar 2011
22516 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:05 pm to
Interested to see the NY headlines tomorrow morning after that huge gafe. Cost NYJ the game in one of the worst calls I've seen in a long time
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33061 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:09 pm to
Are you being intentionally obtuse?

The offense is the team that fumbled, therefore they were the ones who had possession when the fumble happened....

When a receiver catches the ball in the end zone but his foot is on the white line on the boundary or back of the end zone he is considered out of the boundary right? So when the football goes out of play in the end zone it is out of the field boundaries, which is out of bounds.



Since I answered all your questions answer mine. Why should the defense be rewarded possession?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:15 pm to
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Are you being intentionally obtuse?


I'm being intentionally correct.

quote:

The offense is the team that fumbled, therefore they were the ones who had possession when the fumble happened....


Correct, but the play doesn't stop there, does it.

quote:

When a receiver catches the ball in the end zone but his foot is on the white line on the boundary or back of the end zone he is considered out of the boundary right? So when the football goes out of play in the end zone it is out of the field boundaries, which is out of bounds.


The field of play and end zones are not the same. Your hypothethetical is not useful.

quote:

Since I answered all your questions answer mine.


You haven't. Why should the offense be rewarded with possession?

Hypotheticals, what ifs, and deflections are not answers.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33061 posts
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:19 pm to
Oh my god you are pathetic, don't answer my question, just keep making the same points over and over that adds so much to an argument.

Best way to tell when you've bested the person you're debating, they spend all their time poking holes in your argument without ever defending their's
This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 7:20 pm
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