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re: I can’t understand why coaches like Pat Shurmur get HC jobs

Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12299 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:07 pm to
Bill “fricking “ Belichick
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
20239 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:19 pm to
Leslie Frazier
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 10/22/18 at 11:37 pm to
I can't understand why you people can't understand the very basics of what you are discussing. The first objective of a HC is not, in fact, to win games. The second objective of a HC is not, in fact, to win games. It is a business. Coaches are not coaches in college and pros. They are business managers. Coaching is part of the responsibilities, but it is only one of many job responsibilities.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5411 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 6:39 am to
The first objective of a head coach isn’t to win games? The frick?
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19815 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 6:41 am to
Good ole boy network
Posted by Cornelius
1800s
Member since Aug 2012
1036 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:16 am to
In the NFL, you have either been fired or you are about to be.

Belichick, Kubiak, Carroll, Coughlin, Dungy, & Shanahan were all fired at previous stops before they became Super Bowl winning coaches.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139838 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:35 am to
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Who are successful retreads?


Shula
Kubiak
Bill
Parcells
Marty
Reid
Holmgren


Theres plenty more out there.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65491 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:38 am to
Dave Campo

This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 9:39 am
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139838 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:40 am to
He cursed the Cowboys twice

Once as a HC then when they brought him back to be DB Coach. I get he was hired as HC since he was a lifer there, but after you fired him why bring him back? That is like when the Chiefs fired Gunther and then brought him back as DC later.
Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
65491 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:42 am to
jerry was tryin to get back to that glory hole
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:48 am to
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NY media will eat him alive


They've actually been eating him alive since he was hired.
Just adding more fuel to the fire.
Overall consensus among Giants fans and the media was this was an awful hire.

They've also all but buried Eli Manning. guy needs to hang it up, it could get ugly.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73367 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 9:51 am to
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The second objective of a HC is not, in fact, to win games


What in the actual frick
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139838 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:06 am to
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They've actually been eating him alive since he was hired. Just adding more fuel to the fire. Overall consensus among Giants fans and the media was this was an awful hire.


His Post game press conference last night shut the media up. He explained what and why. They had no answer for him. I thought he did well in it and brought facts that they can't manipulate on him.

As far as bad as the offense is, they cant survive OBJ not running correct routes, Solder not blocking, Barkley not blocking, and Eli doing dumb. It is not all on Eli like this board wants to think.
This post was edited on 10/23/18 at 10:07 am
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 10/23/18 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Todd Haley
Tom Cable
Mike Nolan
Mike Tice
Rich Kotite
Greg Schiano

I could go on and on



Todd Haley has been a really good OC at a few stops.

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