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How soon before Lynch is fired?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 4/29/21 at 7:58 pm
Why move that far up for Jones or Lance? Both could have been had later in the draft.
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Posted on 4/29/21 at 7:59 pm to cubsfan5150
If they keep Jimmy for a year, I like it. Don't throw him out there on day 1
Posted on 4/29/21 at 8:00 pm to cubsfan5150
Let's see what Lance can do first
Posted on 4/29/21 at 8:02 pm to cubsfan5150
If Lance was there at 4, the Falcons would have taken him.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 8:11 pm to cubsfan5150
Shanahan makes the picks
Posted on 4/29/21 at 8:23 pm to cubsfan5150
He blew up and assembled a winning roster pretty damn quickly and the Niners have a nice window for a while in great cap shape. What’s the issue with this move? They didn’t give up crippling collateral to get their QB who’s now in the hands of a QB whisperer who will get the most out of him. Would have to give up a lot more to squeeze into a subsequent top 10 pick when the team he’s built will be picking in the 20s for a while. He deserves another extension if anything. Rightly balancing both now and the future.
Really bizarre to critique him on what-ifs in general. Lance might not have made it beyond #4. Someone could have traded up with MIA instead too.
Really bizarre to critique him on what-ifs in general. Lance might not have made it beyond #4. Someone could have traded up with MIA instead too.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 4/29/21 at 8:50 pm to hsfolk
Lance would do the same as pick 6-15... They drafted Lance higher than anyone projected him and most assumed that Atlanta wouldn't likely go QB
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:02 pm to cubsfan5150
quote:This is your speculation being passed off as fact. If you know anything about the Draft you know that there are dominos that blow up the expected cadence of the first round and not every front office handles it rationally in the moment.
Lance would do the same as pick 6-15... They drafted Lance higher than anyone projected him and most assumed that Atlanta wouldn't likely go QB
The Niners could’ve been fricked by a number of scenarios and not ended up with any of the Top 4 QB’s. They could really be in trouble regarding getting their future franchise QB if that happened - they’re not picking anywhere near #12 next year. Moving up eliminated the variability and it wasn’t at a brutal cost for now or the future.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:08 pm to RemouladeSawce
Lol, you act like this is the first time that a team has been criticized for moving up to pick a guy too early.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:14 pm to cubsfan5150
You made a thread inquiring as to when a GM who has done a tremendous job since coming in and set his team up for success for a good while will be fired for making a rational move. Don’t know what else to tell you.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:22 pm to cubsfan5150
You’d rather have Bill O’Brien or the Bears GM?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:31 pm to RemouladeSawce
Trading three 1s and a 3 for a chance to pick a guy that likely would have been available later in the draft is not a great way to set your team up for great future success... Its a gamble that didn't have to be made
Posted on 4/29/21 at 9:35 pm to cubsfan5150
Lance will be a big ol bust. Dumb as frick to trade up to 3 to draft him.
This post was edited on 4/29/21 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:13 pm to cubsfan5150
quote:2022 ~#25
Trading three 1s and a 3
2022 ~#100
2023 ~#29
This is a perfectly reasonable package for a franchise QB of a roster that’s already pretty good all-around.
quote:Your own speculation.
likely would have been available later in the draft
quote:They’re already set up for success and if they need to bolster the ranks at any positions, guess how they overcome the lost picks? They use the huge $$$ savings from now having a QB in his rookie contract to be competitive in FA, aided by the good cap space the GM provided.
not a great way to set your team up for great future success
quote:They need a franchise QB. A gamble is potentially missing out on one and not having anywhere near as attractive draft collateral in the next few years, or being forced to give up a ransom for a QB in trade, or having to pay Top 3-5 QB money if any good one hit the FA market.
gamble that didn't have to be made
I’d argue the Niners’ FO handled this complicated situation perfectly but at the minimum it’s silly to hound Lynch for it given his record when Shanahan’s on the hook for it most of all.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:33 pm to RemouladeSawce
You forgot a #1
Your own speculation
quote:
2022 ~#25 2022 ~#100 2023 ~#29 This is a perfectly reasonable package for a franchise QB of a roster that’s already pretty good all-around.
Your own speculation
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:40 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:
it wasn’t at a brutal cost for now or the future.
3 #1's
thats future.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:45 pm to CelticDog
Let’s not be dramatic on the positioning of a 2021 pick flip
The incremental cost of late first round picks is hardly prohibitive for a franchise QB on a loaded team. The NFC favorites haven’t even had a first in eons
Picking the wrong guy fricks their future, not how they put themselves in a position to
The incremental cost of late first round picks is hardly prohibitive for a franchise QB on a loaded team. The NFC favorites haven’t even had a first in eons
Picking the wrong guy fricks their future, not how they put themselves in a position to
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:46 pm to cubsfan5150
quote:
Trading three 1s and a 3 for a chance to pick a guy that likely would have been available later in the draft is not a great way to set your team up for great future success... Its a gamble that didn't have to be made
they better be right.
getting three good or very good players cheap vs the 3rd best qb.
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:50 pm to RemouladeSawce
Who are the NFC favorites?
Posted on 4/29/21 at 10:51 pm to RemouladeSawce
quote:
his is your speculation being passed off as fact. If you know anything about the Draft you know that there are dominos that blow up the expected cadence of the first round and not every front office handles it rationally in the moment.
The Niners could’ve been fricked by a number of scenarios and not ended up with any of the Top 4 QB’s. They could really be in trouble regarding getting their future franchise QB if that happened - they’re not picking anywhere near #12 next year. Moving up eliminated the variability and it wasn’t at a brutal cost for now or the future.
Exactly. Just look at Dallas. It was a sure thing the Cowboys would get one of Horn and Surtain on virtually ever mock and expert opinion. Yet they were both gone.
There are no guarantees you get your guy unless you pick first.
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