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Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:04 am to SprintFun
i find him pretty arrogant but im not one to say he's wrong on every thing he spouts off about. but when he was harping on this topic i remember thinking that wasnt correct at all so i just thought i'd check.
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:04 am to bbap
he would have been more correct 5-10 years ago, today, not so much.
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:05 am to rocket31
i wonder if soph will hop back in here and say oh my bad bbap guess you were right.
probably not.
probably not.
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:06 am to I Bleed Garnet
i really do not understand why you are posting those.
but yes, those would be minimum standards. like i said the major difference between notre dame and unnamed SEC school is that ND requires calculus which i ASSUME others do not.
but yes, those would be minimum standards. like i said the major difference between notre dame and unnamed SEC school is that ND requires calculus which i ASSUME others do not.
This post was edited on 9/14/11 at 11:07 am
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:08 am to I Bleed Garnet
The main difference that many of you are discounting is that ND (and other schools) can't take some of the students that other schools can is because ND (and others) don't offer remedial and other low level courses that other schools do. Thus, if the admissions office sees that a student won't be able to make it past his freshman year, they won't admit him.
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:09 am to bbap
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i wonder if soph will hop back in here and say oh my bad bbap guess you were right.
That would be because you're wrong. The post by rocket31 shows why you're wrong, as does my post above.
It's significantly more difficult for an athlete to get into ND and other schools than it is to get into your typical land grant university in the SEC.
This post was edited on 9/14/11 at 11:10 am
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:09 am to rocket31
No you said d-1 schools don't use a sliding scale.
Then again I don't know the standards of the the better schools are, but most (all but vandy) SEC schools I'd assume use the Minimum standards and go by that Sliding scale for the grades to standardized test part. (well for Football and basketball players)
Then again I don't know the standards of the the better schools are, but most (all but vandy) SEC schools I'd assume use the Minimum standards and go by that Sliding scale for the grades to standardized test part. (well for Football and basketball players)
This post was edited on 9/14/11 at 11:14 am
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:09 am to bbap
Tony Rice made a 690 on his SAT, got into ND, and led them to a national title.
This post was edited on 9/14/11 at 11:12 am
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:10 am to Sophandros
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That would be because you're wrong.
It's significantly more difficult for an athlete to get into ND and other schools than it is to get into your typical land grant university in the SEC.
you got proof. because you resident notre dame fan plus everyone else disagrees with you.
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:11 am to Sophandros
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That would be because you're wrong. The post by rocket31 shows why you're wrong, as does my post above.
It's significantly more difficult for an athlete to get into ND and other schools than it is to get into your typical land grant university in the SEC.
Not really true at all. I'm sure they are willing to bend the requirements a little. Same thing applies for service academies.
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:13 am to bbap
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you got proof. because you resident notre dame fan plus everyone else disagrees with you.
In the post above the one you're responding to.
Or should I email a couple of Notre Dame alums and ask them their take?
Those of us who actually know what happens at private schools can tell you the struggle between the administrations and the athletic departments when it comes to student athletes.
Notre Dame, like most other private schools, offer a certain number of EXCEPTIONS to their admissions policy for athletes. Some school offer a finite number to be shared among ALL SPORTS, while others allocate a certain number to football, a certain number to basketball, etc.
So, if Notre Dame grants, say, two exceptions per class, that does NOT mean that it's just as easy to get into Notre Dame as it is to get into your shitty land grant school.
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:14 am to Maximus
He probably had 2.825 GPA in high school (then again these are the standards now, and I'd think they were different back then)
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:15 am to Sophandros
does ND have a special ed section like "University College" to send all their retard athletes like Tulane did with the Lynarius Elpheage's of the world?
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:15 am to acgeaux129
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Not really true at all. I'm sure they are willing to bend the requirements a little. Same thing applies for service academies.
The service academies have prep schools, where they send the guys who are borderline students. I know a couple of people (one athlete, one non-athlete) who went to the Naval Academy via the prep school. Both of them were still SIGNIFICANTLY brighter than your typical jock.
Still, a few people going through a prep school (which still has higher standards than your typical shitty land grand school) does not mean that it's just as easy to get into to the Academies.
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:16 am to I Bleed Garnet
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He probably had 2.825 GPA in high school (then again these are the standards now, and I'd think they were different back then)
he was a prop 48 and had to sit out his freshman year
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:18 am to Maximus
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does ND have a special ed section like "University College" to send all their retard athletes like Tulane did with the Lynarius Elpheage's of the world?
Lynaris was one of the exceptions that I mentioned above. Granted, I'm on the side that says that we should grant MORE exceptions (and provide more support), particularly for local athletes, but it's still VERY dishonest to point to the exception and claim that it's the rule.
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:18 am to Maximus
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does ND have a special ed section like "University College" to send all their retard athletes like Tulane did with the Lynarius Elpheage's of the world?
yeah i was wondering this too.
i wonder how many more times soph uses the term shitty land grant university. dude is so angry his sports suck.
Posted on 9/14/11 at 11:18 am to Sophandros
No, I can assure you. I sat in a few classes at USMA on a visit up there, and there was a USMAPS guy in one of them who wasn't that smart. You are absolutely right about preps schools, but USMAPS and USNAPS are not going to significantly raise their test scores, and they shuffle around a lot of things in the application process to accommodate athletes. Admittedly, you were mainly talking about private schools like Notre Dame, and service academies are their own breed.
This post was edited on 9/14/11 at 11:19 am
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