re: Freeh report is out: "PSU showed 'total disregard' for Sandusky victims"

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Everyone here too much TV. I keep hearing cover up cover up, cover up non-stop like it's a record...without any answering the pressing question...you need a motive to want to cover something up...what's the motive?

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Just because you don't like the answer doesn't mean it hasn't been posted. People have addressed plenty of reasons a cover up was done.

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without any answering the pressing question...you need a motive to want to cover something up...what's the motive?

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a 50 million dollar a year football program.

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"What in the world would have been better publicity than ferreting out a pedophile and stopping him?"

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50 million dollar per year football program, at least to those in on the coverup.

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What happened at PSU is more complicated and probably involves mistrust and lack of knowledge and miscommunication between the District Attorney and PSU and law enforcement who failed to act earlier

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read the Freeh report you tart. They exchanged emails about "sitting on it", and being "humane" to Sandusky.

That's it?

Wow...they run a football program...

And how does ferreting out a pedophile hurt this $50 mill program...how does doing the right thing be bad thing in the long-run?

Again, a simple-minded answer...oh duh! They have a millions of dollars and football...please be specific...because, they have a football program is NOT an answer...because ONCE AGAIN YOU ASSUME - IT"S NEGATIVE - well hell, why bang on Paterno and Co. for not reporting if apparently reporting is so detrimental to the program?

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And how does ferreting out a pedophile hurt this $50 mill program...

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well, knowing they had a pedophile on campus, using their facilities...fears over booster cutbacks, loss of TV revenue, loss of merchandising sales, bad publicity, etc...

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Again, a simple-minded answer..

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50 million dollars a year and one of the few profitable FB programs in the nation is a simple minded answer?

The Freeh report acknowledges there was a cover-up. Your moronic opinions on "nu-uh", are just that...moronic.

Yeah...bad people exist all over the place...no one is going to hold it against PSU that some jackass turned out to be a pedophile...it happens...and if they ferret him out and bring him to prosecution...then it's a clean program doing the right thing by getting rid of a pedophile.

Everyone here assumes too many things...the history of how this happened is probably far more complicated than...oh...cover-up, cue the movie cameras and smokey lighting.

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no one is going to hold it against PSU that some jackass turned out to be a pedophile...it happens

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And yet they still covered it up.

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and if they ferret him out and bring him to prosecution...then it's a clean program doing the right thing by getting rid of a pedophile.

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And yet they still covered it up.

I'm convinced you're trolling.

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and if they ferret him out and bring him to prosecution...then it's a clean program doing the right thing by getting rid of a pedophile.

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But they didnt do that. They covered it uop for decades. We know that because it is in court documents that have sent Sandusky to jail, and the Freeh report.

Your willful ignorance of reality doesn't make you right, just stupid or delusional.

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Everyone here assumes too many things...the history of how this happened is probably far more complicated than...oh...cover-up, cue the movie cameras and smokey lighting.

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You're assuming things are severely complicated, we're discussing the reality. There WAS a coverup for decades by the AD, President, VP and Head Coach to protect a pedo.

THOSE ARE FACTS.

No it's not.

For decades? There was an investigation in 1998.

You are assuming so many things and extrapolating and presenting them as undisputed facts.

Have we had a Civil Trial on these matters. No.

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Title:19.01.2 - Exemplary Conduct.
Individuals employed by or associated with member institutions for the administration, the conduct or the coaching of intercollegiate athletics are, in the final analysis, teachers of young people. Their responsibility is an affirmative one, and they must do more than avoid improper conduct or questionable acts. Their own moral values must be so certain and positive that those younger and more pliable will be influenced by a fine example. Much more is expected of them than of the less critically placed citizen.

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Are you smart enough to realize that this maybe the most unenforceable single provision I've ever read.

Are you smart enough to realize that if infractions were made on the basis of this provision, the person receiving the infraction would challenge its legitimacy in district court on grounds of being void for vagueness, and that they would win in about three and a half seconds.

Are you smart enough to realize that the NCAA would never dare impose an infraction based on Title: 19.01.1 because it knows that in so doing it would set a precedent of having to make an agency determination on the moral values of its coaches?

Are you smart enough to realize that the fricking NCAA isn't in the business of making decisions about which coaches are pieces of shite.

Are you smart enough to realize that if the NCAA imposed infractions on the basis of Title: 19.01.2 that it would then have no choice but to get involved in the criminal case involving the University of Montana football program.

Are you smart enough to realize that this situation -- head coach involved in "improper conduct or questionable acts" happens about a dozen times a year?

Are you smart enough to realize that the NCAA is not a law enforcement agency, but that it is a rulebook and a group of people who exist to enforce the provisions of that rulebook only because a group of academic institutions allow it to?

Are you smart enough to realize that the presidents of the member universities are smarter than YOUR DUMB arse and therefore don't want the agency that they've charged with the task of ensuring adhherence to rules that help ensure competitive fair play -- 85% of which are singularly dedicated to the protection the naive notion of "amateurism", but that's a different topic altogether -- and not to makign sure that dirty old men who make rhythmic slapping noises in the showers get reported to authorities immediately?

Does everybody want the guy who does rhythmic slapping to get report immediately? Of course.

Do people smarter than YOUR DUMB arse know that sanctioning a program for letting a pedofile roam around campus does nothing to ensure that the major goals of the NCAA -- again, protecting the sanctity of amateurism and the student-athlete, and also ensuring that programs are on an equal competitive playing field -- are prosepctively advanced for that program or for any other program? Of course.

And why? Because they aren't as stupid as your dumb arse.

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Mark Emmert said, and i posted the link in this thread, page 18 I think, that this definitely falls under their ethical guidelines under LOIC.

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That's public relations talk. Infractions won't be imposed on the basis of Title 19.01.2. Who wants to make a wager?