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Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:41 am to vorenus23
exactly.
it makes much more logic to think manny has greater appeal at this point.. especially world-wide appeal.
they both need each other, as well as boxing.. but from here on out if it isn't each other i am sorry i just believe manny will draw more of an audience.
floyd's last big hee haw was tonight unless it is manny. he will still carry his hard core fans.. but i don't think the casual fans are as enticed to see him fight. thats just my opinion and you all have your own and all your old school statistics..
personally i've never cared to watch floyd fight.. but i watched him tonight bc of mosley.
it makes much more logic to think manny has greater appeal at this point.. especially world-wide appeal.
they both need each other, as well as boxing.. but from here on out if it isn't each other i am sorry i just believe manny will draw more of an audience.
floyd's last big hee haw was tonight unless it is manny. he will still carry his hard core fans.. but i don't think the casual fans are as enticed to see him fight. thats just my opinion and you all have your own and all your old school statistics..
personally i've never cared to watch floyd fight.. but i watched him tonight bc of mosley.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:42 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:nah wouldve never guessed
personally i've never cared to watch floyd fight..
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:42 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
lets pick this topic back up after manny's camp issues a statement.. i think they'll say something as early as tomorrow.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:44 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
as long as Mayweather is on the HBO 24/7 show, it doesn't matter who he fights, it'll sell...
the dude is charismatic.
you either love the dude or want to see him get KTFO.
and every fight, they build the opponent up to "the toughest fighter Floyd has ever faced"
so people will watch.
I want Floyd vs. Manny more than anyone, but if Floyd fights Chad Broussard, i'm watching the fight. Same goes with Manny.
the dude is charismatic.
you either love the dude or want to see him get KTFO.
and every fight, they build the opponent up to "the toughest fighter Floyd has ever faced"
so people will watch.
I want Floyd vs. Manny more than anyone, but if Floyd fights Chad Broussard, i'm watching the fight. Same goes with Manny.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:46 am to vorenus23
How can you morons say that there is no other fight for Mayweather. If not manny then the next would be Timothy Bradley or Yuri Foreman , Andre Berto ( who I feel is the next ww in line ) maybe even Paul Williams, but unlikely. Then there is Cotto. Lots of options.
Every common opponent of manny and Floyd, Floyd has outsold manny in ppv.
Mayweather made more money tonight than manny has made in his last two fights. He will be fine.
Every common opponent of manny and Floyd, Floyd has outsold manny in ppv.
Mayweather made more money tonight than manny has made in his last two fights. He will be fine.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:46 am to vorenus23
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what's your point?
Nobody cares to watch Manny fight anyone but Floyd except for Phillipino's hoping to catch a glimpse of their future president and biggest pop star..
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:48 am to Iamnick
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you either love the dude or want to see him get KTFO.
exactly. and if people don't believe there's a chance he'll get beat, they won't watch.
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and every fight, they build the opponent up to "the toughest fighter Floyd has ever faced"
yep. they've done good on this, esp with overrated ricky hatton. but they won't be able to after tonight...unless its manny
quote:
if Floyd fights Chad Broussard, i'm watching the fight.
if floyd fights chad broussard, it won't sell enough ppv's, which means floyd won't make much money, which means floyd won't accept the fight.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:49 am to AUTigLN11
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Nobody cares to watch Manny fight anyone but Floyd except for Phillipino's hoping to catch a glimpse of their future president and biggest pop star..
speak for yourself, dude, because you just lost all speaking rights for the boxing public and the general public...
If you don't want to see Manny fight anyone but Floyd, don't watch his fights. the few dollars they would have gotten from you won't kill them. Boxing fans, on the other hand, will watch regardless of who he fights (i.e. Joshua Clottey)
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:50 am to AUTigLN11
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Nobody cares to watch Manny fight anyone but Floyd except for Phillipino's hoping to catch a glimpse of their future president and biggest pop star..
ok. who cares? as long as they're buying the ppv's manny doesn't need floyd. which was my point in the first place. you're dense.
This post was edited on 5/2/10 at 12:52 am
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:51 am to Iamnick
i dislike the dude, but i don't care what he does from here on out unless he fights you know who. many more casual fans will feel the same way. floyd haters will not tune in in hopes of him getting knocked out.. especially in all honesty knowing he's going to be the heavily favored.
the only way he'll get interest is he continues to climb weight.. which there is no way he does that. he doesn't look comfortable climbing weight as it is.. believe what you wish.. he is not the same fighter.. look at his fight against de la hoya and hatton.. then look at what manny did to the both of them.. floyd is much more effective around the 130's. he will not jump to 150's.. there's nothing interesting left for him, but manny. i'm sorry i feel at this point manny has more overall fan support and appeal.
floyd's hate-me act is just reached it's all time peak. the interest will decline. it has with me and it will with others. what he did tonight with his entrance and everything else did me over. i don't even let it bother me.. it is all clearly an act.. look at how buddy/buddy him and shane were after the fight.. i agree with sportsmanship, but i think that was a bit too buddy buddy.. after all the things he said about mosley pre-fight.
the only way he'll get interest is he continues to climb weight.. which there is no way he does that. he doesn't look comfortable climbing weight as it is.. believe what you wish.. he is not the same fighter.. look at his fight against de la hoya and hatton.. then look at what manny did to the both of them.. floyd is much more effective around the 130's. he will not jump to 150's.. there's nothing interesting left for him, but manny. i'm sorry i feel at this point manny has more overall fan support and appeal.
floyd's hate-me act is just reached it's all time peak. the interest will decline. it has with me and it will with others. what he did tonight with his entrance and everything else did me over. i don't even let it bother me.. it is all clearly an act.. look at how buddy/buddy him and shane were after the fight.. i agree with sportsmanship, but i think that was a bit too buddy buddy.. after all the things he said about mosley pre-fight.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:54 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
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but manny. i'm sorry i feel at this point manny has more overall fan support and appeal.
floyd out sells manny in ppv buys every time. floyd is the bigger draw
Posted on 5/2/10 at 12:59 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:Yet you wont even consider that Manny might be roiding to fight at those weights. The guy started fighting at barely over 100 lbs. He was knocked down a bunch at 126 and lower and was knocked out multiple at lower weight classes. Now he's knocking out much bigger fighters and trading shots with them like its nothing.
the only way he'll get interest is he continues to climb weight.. which there is no way he does that. he doesn't look comfortable climbing weight as it is.. believe what you wish.. he is not the same fighter.. look at his fight against de la hoya and hatton.. then look at what manny did to the both of them..
Add to that that he wont submit to this testing and had his people ask around about the penalties for testing positive and you're totally in denial if you wont even acknowledge that something might be going on
This post was edited on 5/2/10 at 1:00 am
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:00 am to eyeran
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Add to that that he wont submit to this testing and had his people ask around about the penalties for testing positive and you're totally in denial if you wont even acknowledge that something might be going on
BOOM.
but somehow, Floyd is the bad guy.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:01 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
Who cares about all the who sells more PPV shite y'all talking bout. Let's just sit back and enjoy watching two of the greatest fighters of all time. This is a great time to be a boxing fan. But I don't care if u are a manny fan or a Floyd fan, tonight proved that Floyd Mayweather is a special fighter. We will tell our grandkids of stories of these two guys of our generation.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:03 am to eyeran
yall act like manny has never been tested at all.. or is against testing at all cost.. he's definitely superstitious of when he tests. bc the last fight he tested close to fight time he lost.. and that's the kind of guy manny is..
i think manny has much more to lose in doing any type of roids.. than to gain. especially considering he is a guy who cares about his image more than his career. again, roach has come out stating they are willing to work on the 14 day pre-test.
LINK
I look for Roach to come out soon (as soon as tomorrow) stating they will agree to the testing.
i think manny has much more to lose in doing any type of roids.. than to gain. especially considering he is a guy who cares about his image more than his career. again, roach has come out stating they are willing to work on the 14 day pre-test.
LINK
I look for Roach to come out soon (as soon as tomorrow) stating they will agree to the testing.
This post was edited on 5/2/10 at 1:05 am
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:04 am to Louisianimal83
quote:
Who cares about all the who sells more PPV shite y'all talking bout. Let's just sit back and enjoy watching two of the greatest fighters of all time. This is a great time to be a boxing fan
sorry, i'll stop embracing rivalries.
that's always bad for sports, right?
Lebron/Kobe, Jordan/Pistons, Magic/Bird, Ohio State/Michigan, UNC/Duke, Manning/Brady, Yankees/Red Sox.
good night.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:08 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:aka you're in denial?
yall act like manny has never been tested at all.. or is against testing at all cost.. he's definitely superstitious of when he tests. bc the last fight he tested close to fight time he lost.. and that's the kind of guy manny is..
i think manny has much more to lose in doing any type of roids.. than to gain. his especially considering he is a guy who cares about his image more than his career. again, roach has come out stating they are willing to work on the 14 day pre-test.
LINK
I look for Roach to come out soon (as soon as tomorrow) stating they will agree to the testing.
Forget the nonsense about ppvs and all that
Explain his total change in body type and fighting style. Then explain why he wanted to know the penalties for him testing positive for roids. No bs. Just answer that
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:14 am to eyeran
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The guy started fighting at barely over 100 lbs.
true, but manny really hasn't gained much size. he was just able to make low weights during training.
in 2004 for jmm he weighed in at 125. in the ring the next day he weighed 137 after hydration. For the rematch he weighed in at 129, and the next day he weighed 145.
When he fought DLH he weighed in at 142, and the next day he weighed 148. 138 and then 148 for the Hatton fight.
so...really not that much difference in size; he's just not killing himself to make low weights anymore
Posted on 5/2/10 at 1:16 am to eyeran
quote:
Then explain why he wanted to know the penalties for him testing positive for roids.
link?
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