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re: finally got confirmation for WSOP Main Event!!!!!

Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:06 pm to
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like i try to explain to everyone that questions me playing poker. Even my mom. 2+2 always = 4. numbers hold true over a long period of time. poker isnt a snapshot. its a long term thing.


I agree but there is so much luck involved that you have to always play the odds ALWAYS and people don't.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:06 pm to
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where were you the casino poker room supervisor?


I'll only say it was here in Louisiana. I got started dealing at Argosy in B.R. in 1995. Got out of the business in 1999.

I highly suggest dealing poker to anyone in school who is of age. Can make 20-23/ hour if youre just average. A really good dealer can get to $30/hour....in Louisiana. I wasnt in school at the time, but I think its a good college job if youre of age.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:07 pm to
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a crapshoot? you obviously have no idea about the tourney at all. maybe a crapshoot to win the entire thing. WSOP ME is a great tourney to make good $$$. its a field of 75% morons and sat winners and its the greatest structured tourney in the world.


If 75% of the field are morons, then wouldn't it make it harder to get to the money? It's much harder to read the bad players than the good players. Wouldn't someone be more likely to run down your KK with a suited 6 and 10 if they were a bad player than a good player?
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4940 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:08 pm to
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I agree but there is so much luck involved that you have to always play the odds ALWAYS and people don't.



If you (assuming youre a rookie) sat down with a really good poker player, he could beat you without looking at his own cards. Its not only about the numbers. Sometimes you gotta play the MAN, vice playing the cards. This is especially true when playing for big money.
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:09 pm to
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dont make me whoop you next time i see you in the texas club for some MMA fights


who the frick is this?
Posted by malone121212
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
433 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:10 pm to
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So i guess to answer the question, YES, I prefer a cash game (limit) because thats what I know best. I dont have enough experience in tourneys, and to me its a totally different monster.

I have the patience to wait out the fish at the table. A cash game suits me fine. You dont need to be quite as aggressive, and a mistake doesnt get you kicked off the table and out of the game..lol.




lol. that is so true. i think the reason i play cash games so bad is cause i bring my tourney game into cash too often.

most of the low limit cash games are unbeatable b/c of the rake. 3/6 4/8



abou the 1/2 NL game at harrahs. they are making a killing off of it. that $6 time rake every 30 mins is stupid. the most you can sit with is 200 ( if they are opening a new table)

so 200x9 =$1800 on table
if the 9 players play for 4 hours, thats a total of $432 in rake. thats almost 25% of the money that WAS IN PLAY into harrahs pocket!!!!!thats absurd!!!!
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:10 pm to
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Sometimes you gotta play the MAN, vice playing the cards. This is especially true when playing for big money.


VERY few people possess the ability to do this, lots of people think they can.
This post was edited on 6/15/09 at 1:11 pm
Posted by hoghunter
OverThere, US
Member since Jan 2007
1058 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:10 pm to
Dont mention pokerstars or the thread will get locked and you will get banned. That word is forbidden on these boards.



edit: oops i said it
This post was edited on 6/15/09 at 1:12 pm
Posted by malone121212
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
433 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:13 pm to
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It's much harder to read the bad players than the good players


this is so overused. people always talk about reading players. its so fricking hard to get an actual read on someone. with so many bad players and the structure being so good, you can just wait till you have a monster. they will donate their chips to you.


so your telling me you rather play good players than bad players? who the frick would want to do that? think before you type.
Posted by deuceiswild
South La
Member since Nov 2007
4940 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:13 pm to
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VERY few people possess the ability to do this, lots of people think they can.


Thats true...but you dont have to be a world champ to do it to a rookie. Especially one who thinks hes the man.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:15 pm to
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Especially one who thinks hes the man.



There are ALOT of those. One of the other big problems i have had with poker, is the "odds" that you are making you decision on is based on best case scenario and you assume your "outs" are still in the deck. Most of the time especially when you are playing 10 handed, thats not the case.
This post was edited on 6/15/09 at 1:16 pm
Posted by malone121212
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
433 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:15 pm to
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VERY few people possess the ability to do this, lots of people think they can



yea. people dont get reads as much as they say. the biggest thing in poker IMO is position. If you give me the button every hand, I could never look at my cards and beat you. position is huge. thats where most rookies and beginners go broke. playing marginal hands out of position.
Posted by NOLATiger86
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2005
8287 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:16 pm to
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dueces and malone


im sure i know both of you, at least it seems that way
Posted by NOLATiger86
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2005
8287 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:19 pm to
and malone, i will most likely be out there in ta couple weeks. got 4 of my buddies out there already playing. good luck to you.
Posted by malone121212
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
433 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:22 pm to
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There are ALOT of those. One of the other big problems i have had with poker, is the "odds" that you are making you decision on is based on best case scenario and you assume your "outs" are still in the deck. Most of the time especially when you are playing 10 handed, thats not the case.




yea. totally true. like i said. 2 +2 always = 4.
but variance is super high with tourneys like you stated. thats why alot of the math guys do so good in poker. they play numbers. and numbers hold true over time.

i have an online backer. our agreement is 50/50 + makeup. that means if i lose say 2k in april i have to makeup 2k in may before i profit 50% of the PURE PROFITS. I have been down $3000 every month before I hit my big scores. Its so natural in tourney poker. I have friends who play really high buy ins online. some of them are $100,000 in makeup but can make that up all in 1 good sunday.
tourney buy ins add up fast. I am limited to what my backer lets me buy into. to show you how fast tourney buy ins can add up. If i play 1 sunday ( which is probably about 15-20 tourneys)
and i brick them all which is highly likely with 2,000 players in each then I will prob lose $1200-$1500 range. A good MTT poker player usually cashes about 14-16% of the tourneys they play.

you are correct though. luck is involved. i didnt mean to go off on you earlier. kinda snapped a bit quickly. sorry about that.
Posted by malone121212
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
433 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:23 pm to
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got 4 of my buddies out there already playing. good luck to you



we probably know the same guys. who you got out there?
Posted by HeadyMurphey
Los Santos
Member since Jan 2008
17296 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:24 pm to
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malone121212


BL?
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51395 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:24 pm to
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you are correct though. luck is involved. i didnt mean to go off on you earlier. kinda snapped a bit quickly. sorry about that.


Its cool, my question is how is your backer monitoring you and how are you monitoring the people you back. Surly this can't be based on trust.
Posted by wizziko
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Member since Jan 2006
35881 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:25 pm to
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abou the 1/2 NL game at harrahs. they are making a killing off of it. that $6 time rake every 30 mins is stupid


my first time playing there was a couple of Sundays ago and that shite was killing my stack. I was playing tight as hell also. Could have came away with so much more if I wasn't playing like a count
Posted by malone121212
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
433 posts
Posted on 6/15/09 at 1:29 pm to
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Its cool, my question is how is your backer monitoring you and how are you monitoring the people you back. Surly this can't be based on trust.


actually, it is based on trust. the guy who backs me is actually 1 of my good friends. i met him through poker. the kid is 24 years old and an absolute genius. he makes more $$$ than anyone i personally know in a year. i actually started backing players through him. he has a site. i am an affilate of his site. each player we back has to have a reference from a well known trusted player in the poker community. online poker is huge. very huge. its a billion dollar industry for the actual sites. pokerstars. fulltilt. ultimatebet. etc.

i currently back 3 guys. we fund their accounts each month and send an excel spreadsheet that is already worked out. all they do is put their ending balances for each night they play and it calculates everything for them.



This post was edited on 6/15/09 at 1:31 pm
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