Federer vs. Nadal

Nadal just won the second set. 1-1 now

Federer cruised through the 3rd set 6-1 and now leads the head to head 6-4 on surfaces other than clay.

Yea that's true.

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I doubt it. The past his prime excuse probably would have come out

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Did anyone catch the segment, during the 2nd set I believe, where the conversation of GOAT sort of developed? Don't remember who the commentator was, but it was with respect to Fed and Sampras - that when the two met, Sampras was past his prime but that Fed had not yet reached his. The discussion was, in effect, that when that happens, you actually do get a fair measure of who's "better." (Understanding that it's only the best-guess scenario). The logic was that where two players are equally away from their prime, because both are old - both are young - or one is old and the other young, that it can be a good indicator of the inherent talent, rather than athleticism, endurance, etc... that will typically go to the young.

@ 3 years ago, IMO, Fed started to lose his strangle-hold, when Nadal was about to hit his stride. But, about 3 years ago, Fed was by far the more dominant player. That said, Fed pulled out an amazing tourney this past week at the year end Championship, beating Nadal to do it. He may have lost a step or two, but my God - GOAT? AbsoF'Nlutely.