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re: ESPN's 2016-17 NBA Western Conference predictions. What are your predictions?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:59 pm to RonBurgundy
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:59 pm to RonBurgundy
It ain't important enough for Carlisle to take a bunch of washed up dudes + Barnes to the playoffs.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:59 pm to JohnnyKilroy
KAT + Wiggins year two. Throw in Thibs and a better supporting cast. They'll win 50 on just defense and giving KAT the ball.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:02 pm to theducks
50?
40 would be a great season for them.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:03 pm to Boomshockalocka
Wat? Last time the Spurs played D'antoni, the Spurs swept the Lakers with an average margin of victory of like 20
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:05 pm to Aggie Fishfinder
Oh thanks I forgot about that one for a split second when I made the post. Too bad for you that wasn't a coach D kinda team. He's finally got a roster built for his offense. For the first time since his PHX days.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:06 pm to theducks
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KAT + Wiggins year two. Throw in Thibs and a better supporting cast. They'll win 50 on just defense and giving KAT the ball.
This is just insanity
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:07 pm to RonBurgundy
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Because they have a top 10 coach and a top 10 player.
Their coach is the antithesis of what works in today's NBA. Being one of the 5 slowest teams in the league isn't going to get your far in today's game.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:09 pm to Boomshockalocka
But if coaching isn't important, why should we think the rockets will be any better next year?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:10 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Who was worth a shite on his Chicago teams post rose injury? Butler wasn't great yet, Noah was solid. Deng was good but he isn't somebody is name drop in a convo.
I don't think it's that crazy if they buy in to play hard nosed defense
I don't think it's that crazy if they buy in to play hard nosed defense
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:12 pm to theducks
quote:Timberwolves are not winning 50 games.
KAT + Wiggins year two. Throw in Thibs and a better supporting cast. They'll win 50 on just defense and giving KAT the ball.
KAT is a good player but come on... he was good this past season and they only won 29 games.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:12 pm to Aggie Fishfinder
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But if coaching isn't important, why should we think the rockets will be any better next year?
Didn't you hear? They nabbed the 3rd and 5th best players from of a 30 win team #upgrade
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:13 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Oh thanks I forgot about that one for a split second when I made the post. Too bad for you that wasn't a coach D kinda team. He's finally got a roster built for his offense. For the first time since his PHX days.
except Phoenix was more talented.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:16 pm to PrimeTime Money
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KAT is a good player but come on... he was good this past season and they only won 29 games.
KAT is probably First Team All-NBA next year...(which btw, the voting results rules on that need to be adjusted..Draymond got fricked on a technicality)
Wiggins has All Defensive potential. Rubio too.
but it's all about KAT...that guy, injury free, is going to be the best player of his generation.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:18 pm to theducks
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Who was worth a shite on his Chicago teams post rose injury? Butler wasn't great yet, Noah was solid. Deng was good but he isn't somebody is name drop in a convo
Who is worth a shite on Minny's lineup past Towns and Wiggins (an inefficient chucker)? Lavine is not one to write home about (those dunks tho), Rubio is meh, Gieng is solid, but injury prone. I guess we'll see what Dunn can do, but he won't even start most likely.
Towns is an absolute beast, but we see that you need at least 2, but more likely 3 all star caliber guys to reach 50 wins.
Minny has 1.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 6:19 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:21 pm to RonBurgundy
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Wiggins has All Defensive potential
Based on what? He is below average on defense.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:32 pm to Aggie Fishfinder
quote:I mean, the Rockets did get better on paper.
But if coaching isn't important, why should we think the rockets will be any better next year?
1. If you watched them last year, you would know Dwight was a non-factor. He wasn't good on defense last year (or offense for that matter).
Capela was better than Dwight this past season both statistically and you could see it watching the games. Not-to-mention Dwight was a root cause of chemistry problems.
In case you don't believe that Dwight wasn't the best fit, the Rockets had a record without Dwight over the past 2 seasons of 34-18 (.653). With Dwight, they had a record of 63-49 (.562).
They actually played better when he didn't play. So addition by subtraction.
2. One of the problems with the Rockets on offense (even though their offense has been good since Harden joined the team), was that they shoot a lot of 3's but are only average at best at making them. Their 3 point percentage has been middle of the pack.
Well, by adding Anderson and Gordon, they have added two guys who can really shoot the 3 and space the floor. Harden with better shooters around him to space the floor even more will make him an even better scorer.
Mike D'Antoni has a lot of weapons with Capela being a very good roll man in his pick and roll offense with Harden handling the ball and 40% 3-point shooters spacing the floor.
They really could have one of the best offenses in the league.
In addition to Anderson and Gordon, they added Nene as a back-up center. He's getting up there in age, but is still a solid player.
3. Their defense is the question mark. They were pretty bad on defense last season and still finished with a .500 record. So even if they just maintained their 21st ranked defense from last season, they'd improve by being much better on offense.
If you believe that being better on offense can improve the defense by getting more chances to set up in the half-court after made buckets, then they may improve a bit.
And maybe they surprise people and have an average defense ranked about 13th or 14th.
Who knows. But they certainly improved.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:32 pm to Aggie Fishfinder
Dude coaching isn't important when it comes to Carlisle getting a group of washed up players to the playoffs. Coaching is important when Minny goes from Sam Mitchell to thibs. If you can't tell the difference or know when to apply the phrase and when not to then you prob shouldn't be posting in a serious hoops thread just saying.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:37 pm to RonBurgundy
PHX never had 4 40% 3 pt shooter to put around Nash. Oh and harden > Nash also.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 6:54 pm to Boomshockalocka
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PHX never had 4 40% 3 pt shooter to put around Nash. Oh and harden > Nash also.
I was hoping you'd say that.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 7:00 pm to RonBurgundy
Ws48, PER, etx show that hardens last two years have been better than Nash at his very best. Oh and we haven't seen hardens best yet.
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