Edna Karr vs State All star teams (hypothetical)

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New Jersey

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I don't think you understand what you're talking about. You realize that for most, if not all, of these states, they would be fielding an entire starting 22 (and more) of Power 4 level players, right? Not even the best high school programs in America - excepting potentially IMG, who literally recruits nationally to have that kind of roster and even then is too expensive to build the depth and completeness that a statewide all-star team would have - have anything remotely close to that. An all-star team from an average football state - say, Indiana or Missouri - would absolutely whip even the best high school teams in California or Texas or Florida (or Louisiana).

Do you know much about high school football outside of Louisiana?

New Jersey has about as many NFL players as Alabama right now and more than all other SEC states except Texas, Florida, Georgia, and Louisiana (and they are in the same ballpark as Louisiana). Do you think Don Bosco and St. Peter's and Bergen Catholic are spitting out a bunch of future mortgage brokers that just so happen to end up at Ohio State and Alabama (Minkah Fitzpatrick, Jihaad Campbell, etc.) and Notre Dame and Penn State and...

Edna Carr likely wouldn't even be a clear cut favorite to be the best team in New Jersey just as a standalone team, never mind being able to beat an all star team from the state. Don Bosco and St. Joseph's both are nationally good this year.

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Indiana

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Wisconsin

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Are sneakily pretty decent high school football states. Both are in the same ballpark as South Carolina, Mississippi, and Tennessee in terms of absolute NFL player production (per capita a different story, but they are bigger states). Indiana in particular has a few programs - Brownsburg and Carmel come to mind - that can legitimately compete with just about anyone.

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I think Karr could beat the smallest states’ all star teams… but even moderate sized states have enough talent to play with them

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"Play with" is being more than generous. Mid-sized states would be fielding entire rosters with D-1 level kids with about 25 - 30 future Power 4 level kids. They would hammer any individual teams anywhere in the country.

For comparison's sake, this was Indiana's class of 2023:

Indiana Class of 2023

There are about 20 - 25 guys who ended up playing at Power 4 programs and another 30 - 40 who played FBS level football.

There are at least 3 - 4 on that list that I see that are likely going to be playing pro.

A team like Edna Carr (or Carrollton in GA, or Mater Dei, or what have you) would potentially - potentially - be able to beat all-star teams from the very smallest states - say, with fewer than 1M people (so the Dakotas, Wyoming, Vermont, etc.). They may be competitive against all star teams from the next group of states with 1 - 1.5M people like Maine, Montana, and Rhode Island, though a Hawaiian (1.4M people) all-star team would rock them. Anything above about 1.5M, and you're getting into territory that wouldn't be competitive.

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about 25 - 30 future Power 4 level kids.

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I mean Karr has underclassmen in addition to the 15 that signed…

I didn't list those for that very reason. Half the B1G does not have equivalent players.