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re: Deadspin: Manti Te'o Dead Girlfriend Story a Hoax (now with drug dealers!)

Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:44 am to
Posted by MrSmith
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:44 am to
This just in: Manti's girlfriend is actually Katherine Webb
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:45 am to
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To believe this you have to be willing to believe that she made the introduction through twitter, telephone, email and that he was stupid enough to not question why after 3 years he still hasn't met his online gf but he is meeting her cousin and roniah.

OR

You could believe that he and roniah are friends having met through the same social circles


Address this
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:45 am to
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But if you're trying to avoid discussing a fake person wouldn't you deliberately be vague?
I don't know. I can't answer for him since I'm not in his head and don't know his thought process.

I'm simply presenting possible explanations.

Not everything people do will seem 100% logical in retrospect. People are generally logical, but looking back everybody says and does things that wouldn't quite make complete logical sense if you are trying to piece together facts to prove some kind of thesis.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:47 am to
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I don't know. I can't answer for him since I'm not in his head and don't know his thought process.

I'm simply presenting possible explanations.

Not everything people do will seem 100% logical in retrospect. People are generally logical, but looking back everybody says and does things that wouldn't quite make complete logical sense if you are trying to piece together facts to prove some kind of thesis.

If he was totally duped he definitely wouldn't bring added attention to that lie. No would. Even if he knew he couldn't go away from it 100% he wouldn't make unprovoked tweets about it.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:47 am to
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Address this
I already did. Go back 1 page.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:49 am to
you are either dumber than manti teo reportedly is, or your a very effective troll

Why is option a more believable than option b in my scenario you retarded frick.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:51 am to
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If he was totally duped he definitely wouldn't bring added attention to that lie. No would. Even if he knew he couldn't go away from it 100% he wouldn't make unprovoked tweets about it.
You don't really know that.

He probably wasn't feeling any heat about it at the time, and the idea of this thing blowing up into a national story about his girlfriend not being dead was probably not even on his radar.

You have to remember that this is just a college kid with an online relationship.

He probably wasn't thinking his personal stuff was going to blow up into national news.

He probably wasn't really feeling a need to completely divert attention from the issue because he was probably not expecting anything to come from it.

He just pulled out his phone and fired off a tweet expressing himself.
Posted by Agforlife
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:52 am to
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Regardless of whether he's telling the truth, he'll soon see just how big embarrassment can get.

Update (2:34 a.m.): ESPN has removed all references to the woman claiming to be Lennay showing up at the team hotel from its online story. There is no explanation, note, or correction in their story.



Sounds like somebody has more to tell in this on going saga of deception lies and hoaxes. Hope it is the big booooom that slaps ESPN in the face
Posted by LSUsmartass
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:53 am to
At this point I can buy into he just tripped into a huge arse hoax without any knowledge...but he has told more than just a lie here and there for sure

So far out of all of this there are 2 things I find the most interesting for some reason and would love for him to expound on it:

1. In an interview he did in mid-November he mentioned that her letters to him before every game were creepy, wonder why he would use that word to describe the situation

2. In the interview he did with Schapp he said that going to visit her in the hospital never crossed his mind...really? It never crossed his mind to visit his dying GF who was his motivation and inspiration for a considerable amount of time?
This post was edited on 1/19/13 at 1:59 am
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:53 am to
How old are you?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:55 am to
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you are either dumber than manti teo reportedly is, or your a very effective troll Why is option a more believable than option b in my scenario you retarded frick.
Roniah and "Lennay" live in California.

How would Roniah be part of Manti's social circle?

Manti and his girlfriend were seriously talking for 4 months. Maybe a little longer, I'm not sure.

But it's not like he's going to get a lot of chances to meet her when she lives across the country.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:57 am to
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At this point I can buy into he just tripped into a huge arse hoax without any knowledge...but he has told more then just a lie here and there for sure So far out of all of this there are 2 things I find the most interesting for some reason and would love for him to expound on it: 1. In an interview he did in mid-November he mentioned that her letters to him before every game were creepy, wonder why he would use that word to describe the situation 2. In the interview he did with Schapp he said that going to visit her in the hospital never crossed his mind...really? It never crossed his mind to visit his dying GF who was his motivation and inspiration for a considerable amount of time?
Those are good questions.
Posted by LSUsmartass
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:57 am to
Just thought about another huge question that needs answering, where is his cousin that brought Manti and Lennay together? In the SI article he said that Lennay was a friend of his cousins, is this mysterious cousin in on it? The cousin must have vouched for Lennay at some point.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:04 am to
People on the internet are always looking for a good conspiracy theory to latch on to.

Then you get all defensive and pissed off and name call when more logical explanations start to come to light.

Sure, there are still questions that need to be answered, but we can easily see now that Manti was the victim of a hoax, and also lied about some things for his benefit. Whether it was to avoid embarrassment, judgement, etc., or whatever.

It wasn't some grand conspiracy on his part to hide his sexual orientation, or to win a Heisman, or anything silly like that.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:05 am to
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Just thought about another huge question that needs answering, where is his cousin that brought Manti and Lennay together? In the SI article he said that Lennay was a friend of his cousins, is this mysterious cousin in on it? The cousin must have vouched for Lennay at some point.



And if this was a lie/embellishment to save face from being duped, why bring someone completely outside the hoax in?


I'm sure his real life cousin was all like "what the frick" when Manti claimed he met a person who didn't exist through him.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:05 am to
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Manti and his girlfriend were seriously talking for 4 months.
wait, they were only seriously talking for 4 month?? But she was the love of his life? Sounds legit imo
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:05 am to
No, he's supposedly known her for a number of years and they became a couple in oct 11. So she tells him over the phone about roniah and he meets him ASAP w/o wondering why do I get to meet this douche and not the love of my life

Who by the way I haven't visited even though she's in a hospital with lukemia.

Deadspin's article has a source claiming they're buddies, there's a picture of him with roniah's sister. And seeing as how manti's uncle has met roniah and that the tuiasasopo's are "Polynesian royalty" it's really not hard to imagine them knowing one another
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:08 am to
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Deadspin's article has a source claiming they're buddies, there's a picture of him with roniah's sister. And seeing as how manti's uncle has met roniah and that the tuiasasopo's are "Polynesian royalty" it's really not hard to imagine them knowing one another



Isn't there some since-deleted instagram account that has pictures of Roniah and Manti taken well before he started dating the fake gf?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:10 am to
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And seeing as how manti's uncle has met roniah
I heard that Manti only met Roniah after Lennay was dead.

I thought I heard he met him after the USC game. That is also where Manti's uncle met him, and realized he was full of shite when he said he ran a training camp for Troy Polamalu.

Is that right or am I missing something?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 2:15 am to
I know the initial story was that Roniah went to HS with Te'o. Has that since changed?
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