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re: DAT celebration: Springer is coming! Harrell DFA'd
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:37 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:37 am to Prominentwon
I agree. My point in posting bring up Correa was because he couldn't do any worse. I do think he needs more time though.
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:38 am to C
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Yes.
RF is one of the hardest spots on the field to play. There's MANY variables on the right side.
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And it's been shown time and again as players move positions throughout their careers.
And I'm sure that they never even played the position before. They just moved over and never had a problem without even practicing the position.
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Springer will be just fine at any OF position. And it's not like he has never player RF before this year.
Agreed. I don't have an issue with that. You're complaining like RF is just something you move over to and pick flowers because no one hits it to that side and involves no experience.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:41 am to C
Springers first year in AAA was last year. You act as though he's been ready for 5 years. Plus, what's the point in bringing him up anytime before this year? We were terrible last year and he wasn't going to change that in August which was probably the soonest they'd of called him up. It would have just wasted a year of having him.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:50 am to Ruxin
Last night I was at the game and some guy that works for Luhnow in some way was sitting behind me and was talking about how the young guys were about to start coming up very soon and probably before this month was over.
He even said don't be surprised if correa is called up before the end of the season and went on raving about his spring and that he is by far the best out of all the prospects.
I overheard all this from a guy sitting behind me, so take it FWIW, although springer coming up today is kinda what he was saying so he may actually know something.
He even said don't be surprised if correa is called up before the end of the season and went on raving about his spring and that he is by far the best out of all the prospects.
I overheard all this from a guy sitting behind me, so take it FWIW, although springer coming up today is kinda what he was saying so he may actually know something.
This post was edited on 4/16/14 at 8:51 am
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:54 am to Ruxin
quote:There is no requirement that prospects spend a year in AAA before being called up. He's ~24-25. It's not like he came straight out of highschool. I'll make a prediction that he is better these first 3 years than his next.
Springers first year in AAA was last year
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:54 am to Prominentwon
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Brian McTaggart ?@brianmctaggart 38m
Springer on way to join Astros.
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@mlbtraderumors 32m
Astros To Designate Lucas Harrell For Assignment
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Where the frick is Ryno....Wait, he shouldn't even be allowed to post in this thread. frick him
Posted on 4/16/14 at 8:59 am to C
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Do you think he really needs experience at RF before coming to the majors? really???
If that is going to be his primary position at the MLB level, you're damn right he does.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:02 am to C
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There is no requirement that prospects spend a year in AAA before being called up.
Business is business. Apparently you missed the memo......everyone that pays attention to the Astros knows why Springer wasn't on the Opening Day Roster.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:16 am to Prominentwon
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Business is business.
Apparently, MLB is NOT supposed to be run like a business. For many "supposed" Astros fans, MLB teams should not try to be run like a business, but should:
- dump a lot of money at mediocre aging players just so the team "will be competitive".
- call up every young kid in the farm system that has a good day at the plate or on the mound 'because it would be better than what we have'.
- NOT trade average to below-average players for promising prospects.
- NOT rebuild the farm system, instead the Astros management should be keeping all their crappy players just so they can win 70 games a year.
- Have a $100 million dollar payroll for an also-ran but not play-off ready team.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:31 am to Floating Change Up
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Apparently, MLB is NOT supposed to be run like a business. For many "supposed" Astros fans, MLB teams should not try to be run like a business, but should:
I always love Joe Fan's solutions to a multi-million dollar corporation's problems.
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- dump a lot of money at mediocre aging players just so the team "will be competitive".
Miguel Tejada, Carlos Lee. lulz
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- call up every young kid in the farm system that has a good day at the plate or on the mound
Jordan Lyles definitely deserved to be called up at 20.
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- NOT rebuild the farm system, instead the Astros management should be keeping all their crappy players just so they can win 70 games a year.
Who needs aspirations, anyway?
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- Have a $100 million dollar payroll for an also-ran but not play-off ready team.
Those 2013 Angels' WS Rings are nice!
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:34 am to Floating Change Up
Astros
- lowest payroll by far the past few years
- record setting losses over 3 years
- horrible tv ratings
- horrible attendance
This is how you run a business?
- lowest payroll by far the past few years
- record setting losses over 3 years
- horrible tv ratings
- horrible attendance
This is how you run a business?
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:39 am to C
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This is how you run a business?
When you take over a business that's been run into the ground and have to completely rebuild it.....
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:44 am to Prominentwon
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RF is one of the hardest spots on the field to play
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:47 am to Prominentwon
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and have to completely rebuild it.....
Ignoring your fan base is not a good approach.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:49 am to Floating Change Up
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If that is going to be his primary position at the MLB level, you're damn right he does.
if a former CF cant transition easily to RF, he's a pretty shitty CF
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:52 am to C
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Astros
- lowest payroll by far the past few years
- record setting losses over 3 years
- horrible tv ratings
- horrible attendance
This is how you run a business?
Yes it is. Sometimes, it is the correct course of action to run at a loss. This is basically what the Astros have been doing for 3 years.
Case in point, During McLane's last 4 years, he spent a shite-ton of money on the team. What did he get for it? He ended up selling the team and made a ton of money. But, he also created an organization which was cash-poor, had a TV contract not worth the paper it was written on, and left the farm system with nothing but garbage.
Admittedly, Ed Wade did start the process of reviving the farm system.
But sometimes, it is cheaper to run the business at a loss when you know you have a product in the pipeline that will capture the market and become a cash cow.
Most business courses in college spend quite a bit of time teaching students the how to value a business correctly. Part of the process of valuing your business also is outlining when to expect a profit, when to expect a loss, when to invest more money, and when to shut the doors.
Shutting the doors isn't an option for Crane. So, yes, he has been operating at a loss. It is a very appropriate and sound business model on many occasions.
In 1992, IBM posted a LOSS of $8 Billion. In fact, they ran at multi-billion dollar losses for a couple of years. Did they close the doors? Did the go out and buy poor performing companies to boost their bottom line? Hell no. They sold older, aging companies with poor profitability. And they invested in new technology and services.
Sometimes, you do have to run at a loss.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:56 am to Floating Change Up
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Sometimes, you do have to run at a loss.
Its not the financial losses, its on the field product. Business run at a loss to keep their "fans" on board until their product gets to a place that fans actually want to buy that gives them a profit. Astros are actually making money but driving the fans away. No one was expecting a playoff team, but you don't have to set record losses each year.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:58 am to C
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Ignoring your fan base is not a good approach.
An organization can act like they care about the fans when it comes to business decisions and $$ decisions.....in the end...they don't care about you. They don't care about me. They don't care about anything but the right decisions in the long run to make the business profitable.
I, for one, will GLADLY take 3-4 years of being terrible if it means future contending teams at a consistent level.
Most crybaby Astro fans that I've encountered believe that they are the Royals and Pirates and they're not. They've taken necessary steps and hired the right people to do what they want to do.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:58 am to Lester Earl
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f a former CF cant transition easily to RF, he's a pretty shitty CF
I'm not debating that at all. He should be able to transition easily. But you don't throw a 24 year old rookie into the minors without getting some game time in the position he's primarily going to play in. He's going to have to make enough adjustments going into the MLB games. Why asking him to adjust to a different position too?
There are several things that a right fielder does that a CF does not. Primarily, backing up First Base on a ground ball to the left side of the field. Also, he has to pay much more attention to the pitcher when a runner is on first to be ready for an errant pick-off throw.
Are these things difficult? No. But is it something you tell a rookie, "BTW, you have to do this now, so get 'er done." before his first MLB game? Uh, I don't think so.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 9:59 am to Lester Earl
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if a former CF cant transition easily to RF, he's a pretty shitty CF
To transition with no experience whatsoever, then no....
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