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Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:23 pm to Mr Perfect
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@slackster
Considering my entire thesis is based around Draymond with someone OTHER than the Warriors, this doesn't exactly disprove my unpopular hot take.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:24 pm to slackster
quote:Man, you gotta throw in the towel on this one.
Considering my entire thesis is based around Draymond with someone OTHER than the Warriors, this doesn't exactly disprove my unpopular hot take.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:26 pm to 21JumpStreet
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Guess he wasn't one that voted Draymond as the most overrated player in the NBA
Ahh I forgot about this. Nearly 1 in 5 NBA players polled said Draymond was the most overrated player in the league. Maybe my opinion isn't as unpopular as I thought.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:27 pm to shel311
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Man, you gotta throw in the towel on this one.
What's the point of an opinion if you're not going to at least try to defend it?
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:30 pm to whatiknowsofar
Durant raises their floor substantially.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:33 pm to CocoLoco
Meh.
They lost 6 games by 20 or more this year at home with him playing. Haven’t lost since he has been out.
I’m not sure how you can say their floor is higher with him playing.
They lost 6 games by 20 or more this year at home with him playing. Haven’t lost since he has been out.
I’m not sure how you can say their floor is higher with him playing.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:34 pm to TigerMan327
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lol wut? KD has gotten better defensively over the past couple of years but he in no shape or form an all nba defense level player
KD is a near elite rim protector when asked to and guards the opposing team’s best player on a large portion of possessions.
He’s not asked to do both every game, but there’s plenty of evidence that shows how good he is defensively.
He’s essentially a less athletic Giannis, but with a superior shot and higher basketball IQ.
That’s not a knock Giannis, he’s 7 years younger than KD. It comes with time.
Durant going to Golden State made him a more complete basketball player, as his role varied, better coaching, player development, etc.
Same with LeBron in Miami.
Hate on him all you want, but Durant became his best self out there and the leagues best player.
They aren’t better without his defense, scoring ability, gravity, or basketball IQ on the court.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:38 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
quote:It kinda seems like they are
They aren’t better without his defense, scoring ability, gravity, or basketball IQ on the court.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:40 pm to CocoLoco
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Durant raises their floor substantially.
I tend to agree that he raises the floor and the ceiling, but I don't believe he raises the average level, and the numbers tend to support that notion.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:46 pm to tigerskin
This has been clear for years with them. The offensive prowess of Curry, Klay, and Durant gets the hype and well deserved. They are so fluid and fun to watch when they’re playing at their best.
They never needed KD to do that, they won one and very nearly two titles without him. He just puts them over the top and nigh unbeatable when you have to rely on that many guys to have off games enough to beat them in a series. Even without KD, it’s still tough and they’re deadly.
They do and always have needed Draymond though. You can really tell when he’s not in the lineup how things are out of sync. He is the Warriors fulcrum point and a critical piece to their success.
They never needed KD to do that, they won one and very nearly two titles without him. He just puts them over the top and nigh unbeatable when you have to rely on that many guys to have off games enough to beat them in a series. Even without KD, it’s still tough and they’re deadly.
They do and always have needed Draymond though. You can really tell when he’s not in the lineup how things are out of sync. He is the Warriors fulcrum point and a critical piece to their success.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 12:49 pm to Starchild
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You can really tell when he’s not in the lineup how things are out of sync.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:06 pm to slackster
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I tend to agree that he raises the floor and the ceiling, but I don't believe he raises the average level, and the numbers tend to support that notion.
There might be a shred of truth in there, only if it means Durant is so good he diminishes the use of Draymond and Klay.
Draymond’s effort level is more consistent.
That’s not Durant’s fault. Dude is obsessed with perfecting his craft, he’s actually kind of a basketball weirdo.
Klay could take or leave the game.
Curry loves to entertain.
Durant just simply wants to be the best.
Watch his shootaround/warm up routine. He’s shooting at odd angles, off balance, etc. He’s practicing counter moves to defense.
He’s an odd ball with a chip on his shoulder.
I hope he’s back for the finals.
Seeing Giannis/Kawhi vs Durant is the kind of matchup that the NBA loves.
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 1:13 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
I like Durant. Dude plays an incredible level and style of basketball.
I just can't explain the Warriors production with/without him. At some point that has to matter.
I just can't explain the Warriors production with/without him. At some point that has to matter.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:12 pm to slackster
To an extent, but I’ll contest that they don’t beat Kyrie-Love-LeBron Cavs at full strength with the former iteration of this.
This series is small sample size theater. As is any time Durant’s really missed in GS.
Steph can’t carry the load for a full season.
Neither can Draymond or Iggy.
Klay was in a slump for 2 months of the season.
Boogie came back in late January.
Does anyone think Harrison Barnes would have been able to do this?
This series is small sample size theater. As is any time Durant’s really missed in GS.
Steph can’t carry the load for a full season.
Neither can Draymond or Iggy.
Klay was in a slump for 2 months of the season.
Boogie came back in late January.
Does anyone think Harrison Barnes would have been able to do this?
Posted on 5/21/19 at 2:29 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
ball don't like KD (I know that's you dude)
dubs are 6-4 with you and dubs are 6-0 w/o you
now GTFO
dubs are 6-4 with you and dubs are 6-0 w/o you
now GTFO
This post was edited on 5/21/19 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:21 pm to Mr Perfect
8-1 in the Finals with him, too.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:25 pm to slackster
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I just can't explain the Warriors production with/without him. At some point that has to matter.
Without him, they aren’t worried about getting his diva-arse the ball and they can play more of a team game.
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:36 pm to RebelTheBear
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Dray has been the emotional bitch for the Warriors for years
FIFY
Posted on 5/21/19 at 3:40 pm to ReauxlTide222
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They lost 6 games by 20 or more this year at home with him playing. Haven’t lost since he has been out.
I’m not sure how you can say their floor is higher with him playing.
Cousins made them worse.
Jack up threes.
Try to Globetrotters passes. Turnover machine.
Durant could get his mid range jumper and more.
The back court guys would be wrung out without KD.
They will have iggy for the road games at Milwaukee.
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